ok.....i know this has nothing to do with my thread. but if u a grower of anything in the central ohio area........ i suggest u check out the guys at Garden Connections in grove city off of 270. these guys know there products and can tell u a pretty close estimate at how to use them. these guys are great. just trying to represent the local grow shops cuz majic home garedens ARE ALL BITCHES and just trying to make a buck instead of actualy usiing what they got in they store. these guys micght not grow weed but Garden Connections can sure tell u about everything they have in they store. REPRESENT CENTRAL OHIO!!!!!!! :thumbsup: