yea bro......think they the same pic. can blame that on the Miller High Life. LMAO but yea......i use the string my fwife used to make a braclet wth for the LST. its soft and dont cut into the plant. i hear twist ties work good too.....just leave a lil room for the stem to grow thru. and thanx for being the only one to reply so far :thumbsup: means alot bro