34 days and still not clean..

[rolla91]

If the test comes back positive on my first void, which I hope is unlikely, what is the next best option?

I have the agent X synthetic and may be able to get my hands on some real human urine, and then diluting is also an option.

[rolla91]

The test using my first void of the day came back positive but none of the other two tests did from yesterday on void two and the day before that on void two. F*CK

[rolla91]

Do they ever make you remove your shoes before testing?

I tried to put it on my inner thigh but it seemed noticeable to me.

I could tape it to some "tighty whities" but I'm afraid it would make noise when I'm removing it.


I'm not even positive the test will be today because of the upcoming holiday weekend and the fact I don't even go to work until after lunch but I'm gonna take a real human specimen just to be on the safe side.

Hopefully all goes well.

[Burnt Toast]

Do they ever make you remove your shoes before testing?

Nope.

I could tape it to some "tighty whities" but I'm afraid it would make noise when I'm removing it.

Forget the tape. Simply wedge it behind your scrotum, then keep it in place with the tightys.

From N2's Substitution guidelines:

IMHO the best place/way to crotch and carry the 2oz shampoo bottle/condom is to place it between your scrotum and anus. If you have any question as to where this spot is, stand up with your feet shoulder width apart. Reach down with your hand and cup your testicals. Note where your bird and ring fingers are touching. That is where you want to carry the bottle.

If wedging it proves to be uncomfortable, you can try "sandwiching" the bottle between 2 pair of tightys. Depending on ambient temperature, you may want to attach a heatpak to the bottle, since the sandwiched bottle will not be in direct contact with body temp.

[rolla91]

I modified a pair of shoes for my first test when I subbed to hold my little bottle, it worked well, I think I will use those or an ace bandage holding it on my inner thigh with a head pack, I tried the tighty idea and it didnt seem to work well and I'll have to drive from my place of employment to a remote test site I'm sure so I doubt I'll leave it in all day.

Thanks for all the info, Hopefully all goes well for me

[rolla91]

Well I'm wearing the tight undies and got my modified shoes with me, I'm keeping the sample cool until I need it to hopefully maintain the integrity of it longer. I figure I'll heat it with a cup of coffee or a couple of heat packs when I need to. I'm afraid keeping it on me or in my car at 90+ degrees will degrade the sample sooner.

Nervous is an understatement.

[rolla91]

They rescheduled the test for tomorrow morning. I tested myself again this morning on my first void and still no solid line showing so I feel my best bet is to sub. I have a urine sample that had been frozen within 30 minutes of collection and was kept on ice for the 1.5 hour trip here. I assume once thawed it will be good.

I plan to tuck it in my underwear and I was wondering if I should put a heat pack on it to keep it warm? I feel like I could cool it down but I won't be able to easily warm it more.

My heat pack says heats to 100*, Before when I subbed I stuck the urine bottle in my shoe wrapped in a heat pack and I didn't have any problems, it was slightly too warm but I just dipped the closed bottle into the toilet until it cooled some.

Does my plan sound okay? I know it worked before but my first test was done by a radiologist so I'm not even sure she read the temperature correctly.

[OldManNoPants]

How did it go Rolla? I'm in a similar situation as you. I'd also love to hear about the modified shoe method, as I'm facing a physical on the same visit as my drug test.