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    #41
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    Parents accused of child abuse for having medical marijuana operation in home

    Quote Originally Posted by rightwinger
    The point is the ELECTRICITY--that is extremely dangerous if not installed by a professional electrician. Grow rooms using 1000 watt lights require circuits--the ballasts get very hot--and it is more of a commercial wiring application--not residential. We have a lot of idiots out there that will jerry-rig their panels-double tap existing breakers--install new circuits--not using the correct sized wire-or breakers-and they put in all this new wiring into very old panels. FPE--Federal Pacific lost it's UL rating over 20 years ago--but there are still many around. (The breakers are known not to trip--when they need too--so they just get hot--and start a fire--or someone gets shocked.)

    Then they fill up their basements with all this-electrical jerry-rigging-- while their kids are sleeping above or below these rooms--and then wonder--when busted--why they got charged with "child endangerment".LOL.

    It is so much better to use a detached shed or other area away from the house -- other than putting an entire family at risk of fire or shock hazzard.

    If you're going to grow your own--do it safely.

    Where in the article does it say that this was the case with these people? Oh yea, it doesnt.

    Funny a guy who calls himself 'rightwinger' has no problem with the govt taking peoples kids over a plant. Scott McInnis could use you on the campaign trail.

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    #42
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    Parents accused of child abuse for having medical marijuana operation in home

    Child abuse charges are very serious--and the looks of this guy in the Denver post--he looks like he is very well capable of it.

    WTF does a child abuser look like? That is the most ridiculous statement I think I have read on here. Right up there with " That person doesn't look like they need medical marijuana " or "why is that person parked in a handicap spot when he / she can walk just fine" and "Those damn people that don't need mmj are going to ruin it for the rest of us that really do need it" Get real folks, just because someone does not fit the mold as you do, does not give you the right to pass judgement on them. Shame on you for that statement.

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    #43
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    Parents accused of child abuse for having medical marijuana operation in home

    Quote Originally Posted by Zedleppelin
    Where in the article does it say that this was the case with these people? Oh yea, it doesnt.

    Funny a guy who calls himself 'rightwinger' has no problem with the govt taking peoples kids over a plant. Scott McInnis could use you on the campaign trail.
    This man was charged with child abuse--not child endangerment. You can find many articles related to child endangerment charges on a marijuana bust--where the grow area was within the residence.

    And just because we don't have the exact details--we know that it was a call out on domestic violence--and AFTER the police arrived on the scene--they found the marijuana grow. And at that time they charged this man with Child Abuse--so he could have been very well knocking around one of his kids.

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    #44
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    Parents accused of child abuse for having medical marijuana operation in home

    Quote Originally Posted by rightwinger
    This man was charged with child abuse--not endangerment. You can find many articles related to child endangerment charges on a marijuana bust.
    Maybe so, but if you take the standpoint of being informative, then I will as well.

    How many people die each year of cigarette smoke, how many kids are exposed to it. And then tell me how many people get DSS involved or their kids taken away for neglect since smoking around kids SHOULD be a crime, it is harmful to kids and parents alike, period.

    Laws on marijuana need to change, and have been in motion for some time now by activists. Which is a step in the right direction.

    There might be many articles on child endangerment and marijuana, but why? Is there some sort of associated link between neglecting your kids and growing a so called "illegal plant" one that SHOULD be legal to say the least. Since companies cannot control marijuana cultivation, they simple make it out to be some really bad thing when it is really not, and illegal, that way the state gets money out of you on fines, etc, gotta love the influence the media has on people. It is quite sickening.

    As shitty of a parent that he may be, growing marijuana and taking care of your kids is two completely separate things and should be viewed as such. I can take great care of my kids and yet still cultivate tons of marijuana plants, without causing any kind of danger to my family (other than breaking the law, one that shouldn't even exist). So I see no reason to cross reference child neglect/abuse with cultivating a plant. That is almost like saying if you are from down south you are inbred, or your daddy is rich so he can't possibly be molesting your little sister. It is very stereotypical to say that there is a link between abuse and marijuana growing.

    And to be honest, sure, electricity is dangerous when done improperly, which is why you should do your homework first or hire a licensed electrician to come out and do your setup as far as that aspect but beyond that, it is going to be up to the parent to ensure safety, no one else.

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    #45
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    Parents accused of child abuse for having medical marijuana operation in home

    Quote Originally Posted by THContent
    Maybe so, but if you take the standpoint of being informative, then I will as well.

    How many people die each year of cigarette smoke, how many kids are exposed to it. And then tell me how many people get DSS involved or their kids taken away for neglect since smoking around kids SHOULD be a crime, it is harmful to kids and parents alike, period.

    Laws on marijuana need to change, and have been in motion for some time now by activists. Which is a step in the right direction.

    There might be many articles on child endangerment and marijuana, but why? If there some sort of associated link between neglecting your kids and growing a so called "illegal plant" one that SHOULD be legal to say the least. Since companies cannot control marijuana cultivation, they simple make it out to be some really bad thing when it is really not, and illegal, that way the state gets money out of you on fines, etc, gotta love the influence the media has on people. It is quite sickening.
    Again--The safety of children is of the most importance here. I am talking about an idiot grower installing a grow room in their basement or other interior room of their home--that knows enough about electricity to be extremely dangerous--not only to himself--but to his children.

    I am in no way suggesting that it is wrong for a patient to grow marijuana.--I am myself a medical marijuana advocate and a patient. What gets my blood boiling is when someone is so gung-ho--about growing it for themselves that they put other "innocents" at risk with their own stupidity--and total disregard for their safety.

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    #46
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    Parents accused of child abuse for having medical marijuana operation in home

    Quote Originally Posted by rightwinger
    Again--The safety of children is of the most importance here. I am talking about an idiot grower installing a grow room in their basement or other interior room of their home--that knows enough about electricity to be extremely dangerous--not only to himself--but to his children.

    I am in no way suggesting that it is wrong for a patient to grow marijuana.--I am myself a medical marijuana advocate and a patient. What gets my blood boiling is when someone is so gung-ho--about growing it for themselves that they put other "innocents" at risk with their own stupidity--and total disregard for their safety.
    I can agree completely with you on this. When any kind of grow is done wether it be at home, or commercially in a different location. Safety precautions should be respected and followed, without them you DO put yourself and others at risk. Those are the people that ruin it for the rest of us.

    I grow in my bedroom closet at home and I have 3 kids, I make sure everything is done so that it would be impossible for a fire to break out. Even got it in a cootube to cut down on heat output, and ballast is on an aluminum casing to keep from touching the floor.

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    #47
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    Parents accused of child abuse for having medical marijuana operation in home

    Quote Originally Posted by HighPopalorum
    Last year a local patient burned to death here in Durango when his grow caught fire. That's pretty big news for this town, and it has come up again and again as the city and county wrestle with the land use issues surrounding commercial marijuana grows.
    This is why its important to know what the heck your doing. So many people rig things up to get the job done its inevitable for some things to go wrong for some.

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    #48
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    Parents accused of child abuse for having medical marijuana operation in home

    Medimar Ministry did an interview on the news tonight were their spokeswoman said, and I'm paraphrasing... home growers are dangerous because they are not regulated.

    This place buys from home growers.

    What bull!

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    #49
    Junior Member

    Parents accused of child abuse for having medical marijuana operation in home

    I agree that the meds growing and child raising should be adressed seperately. It's bullshit that they point out that they were growing marijuana...and it's B.S. that people still think it needs to be hidden from kids. Sure, lets be careful about giving it to them from the get go but we should educate them from a young age. That's the biggest problem for a lot of Baby-boomers...they're just now starting to open their mind because complete B.S. has been pounded into their heads for years. Let's not make the same mistakes with our youths because some Big money industires aren't for MMJ.

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    #50
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    Parents accused of child abuse for having medical marijuana operation in home

    Quote Originally Posted by TheAllDayToker
    I agree that the meds growing and child raising should be adressed seperately. It's bullshit that they point out that they were growing marijuana...and it's B.S. that people still think it needs to be hidden from kids. Sure, lets be careful about giving it to them from the get go but we should educate them from a young age. That's the biggest problem for a lot of Baby-boomers...they're just now starting to open their mind because complete B.S. has been pounded into their heads for years. Let's not make the same mistakes with our youths because some Big money industires aren't for MMJ.

    No one is stating that your kids shouldn't know about it. But--after raising a couple of kids myself who are now grown--I know that kids and teenagers really can't keep a secret away from their friends. Let your kids know about your home grow--and you can bet--their friends will know--the parents of the friends will know--and eventually that will get to the ears of teachers--school administrators, etc. etc.

    The topic is about keeping your kids safe-from the electrical hazzards of a home grow. Working as an electrical contractor over the decades--and doing service work--I have seen some rat nest homeowner done work--in which I have told tenants to move out of these places because they are unsafe. Flying splices--great for shock--add-on's done horribly--etc. etc. etc.

    I won't go into it all of that again. My point is to keep it safe--and if at all possible do it in a detached place other than your home. And if you're adding lights--air-conditioning--the works--hire a licensed electrical contractor for your electrical installations.

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