Can I make feminized seeds from feminized seeds?

[THContent]

I know it sounds weird. I am planning on buying 10 Feminized G13 Haze seeds. Basically what I wanna know, is it possible and if so, how would I make feminized seeds from an already feminized plant without making hermaphrodites? Basically I would get regular seeds, but they do not offer them, only feminized. And please do not go off on a tangent about cloning, because if that was what I am after I would have said it from the get go, I am only interested in creating feminized seeds from an already feminized plant, or multiple plants if necessary.

THContent Reviewed by THContent on 06-28-2010. Can I make feminized seeds from feminized seeds? I know it sounds weird. I am planning on buying 10 Feminized G13 Haze seeds. Basically what I wanna know, is it possible and if so, how would I make feminized seeds from an already feminized plant without making hermaphrodites? Basically I would get regular seeds, but they do not offer them, only feminized. And please do not go off on a tangent about cloning, because if that was what I am after I would have said it from the get go, I am only interested in creating feminized seeds from an Rating: 5

[THContent]

Forget it, I found the answer.

[Rusty Trichome]

In case others are curious...

Every genetic step you take without the male contribution, the further you get from 'stable' genetics. But yes, you can fem a femmed female in an emergency. I wouldn't trust the genetics if repeated past that, and would keep a close eye on the femmed fems through entire flowering process.

How many times have the femmed seeds been femmed, before you get them? If from a seed breeding house, likely not an issue. If from backyard stock, (a backyard breeder with bagseed stock, selling 'em at a seed auction site as top dollar genetics) watch 'em closely.

Personally, I think the seed breeders got it backwards. They should have offered femmed genetics at the regular price, and make the consumer pay extra for the privelage of buying the 'natural' seeds containing a 'normal' mix of M/F ratios.

[LetsSeeYa]

In case others are curious...

Every genetic step you take without the male contribution, the further you get from 'stable' genetics. But yes, you can fem a femmed female in an emergency. I wouldn't trust the genetics if repeated past that, and would keep a close eye on the femmed fems through entire flowering process.

How many times have the femmed seeds been femmed, before you get them? If from a seed breeding house, likely not an issue. If from backyard stock, (a backyard breeder with bagseed stock, selling 'em at a seed auction site as top dollar genetics) watch 'em closely.

Personally, I think the seed breeders got it backwards. They should have offered femmed genetics at the regular price, and make the consumer pay extra for the privelage of buying the 'natural' seeds containing a 'normal' mix of M/F ratios.

What would he do, just stress a plant into hermy and then pollenate with it.

I always wanted femmed seeds till i read:wtf:


:rasta:

[THContent]

In case others are curious...

Every genetic step you take without the male contribution, the further you get from 'stable' genetics. But yes, you can fem a femmed female in an emergency. I wouldn't trust the genetics if repeated past that, and would keep a close eye on the femmed fems through entire flowering process.

How many times have the femmed seeds been femmed, before you get them? If from a seed breeding house, likely not an issue. If from backyard stock, (a backyard breeder with bagseed stock, selling 'em at a seed auction site as top dollar genetics) watch 'em closely.

Personally, I think the seed breeders got it backwards. They should have offered femmed genetics at the regular price, and make the consumer pay extra for the privelage of buying the 'natural' seeds containing a 'normal' mix of M/F ratios.

I am buying them from Attitude, G13 Haze.. As you may know, they no longer offer normal seeds, so no more male/female natural mixes on this strain. They are only femmed seeds now, I agree with you on the fact that femmed seeds should be cheaper, considering better genetics when breeding with natural sex rather than using femmed seeds as you stated. Since it is possible to breed fem seeds from a feminized plant I will give it a try, it will be well worth it if all goes well.

Why don't they offer normal seeds, prolly for this very reason haha.

[WashougalWonder]

In case others are curious...

Every genetic step you take without the male contribution, the further you get from 'stable' genetics.


Personally, I think the seed breeders got it backwards. They should have offered femmed genetics at the regular price, and make the consumer pay extra for the privelage of buying the 'natural' seeds containing a 'normal' mix of M/F ratios.

Yes, pollen is valuable. Coming back to the first part of the quote.

I have a plant that is a one of, it is a product of stressed females to a different female that had more desirable phenotypical traits I want.
So this mother, if continued to be kept alive via cloning, and then using a stressed clone, the genetic offspring will thus be consistent, yet not causing the too much male influence you speak of? In other words, as long as the mothers clones get pollenated by a stressed clone and not breeding back again into the line, the line will be/becomes consistent?

I hope that makes sense, very difficult question to phrase.

[Rusty Trichome]

Are you refering to back-crossing to stabilize a strain, from a previously femmed female? (re-femming...?)
Are you are wanting to clone a femmed lady, and stress one of the offspring, and pollinate the mother plant with the femmed pollen? (basically the same thing, but different objectives)

If that's the case, it might not be wise to take the resulting femmed seeds from the above actions, and fem those again. Not sure the technique of back-crossing to stabilize the strain would apply, since you would be inbreeding rather than cross breeding.

<It's too damn early to think this hard, lol>

A plant's "hermie tolerance" can be back-crossed into the strain, but it's tolerance can also be degraded, so start with quality genes. That way, if there is a "hermie-tolerance" shift, it's a a subtle change that likely wouldn't be noticed till way down the line. (possibly generations...possibly many generations...not at all sure)
Every strain has the ability to be stressed into hermaphrodism. Some have a higher tolerance to stress than others, but some have weak genes to begin with, and re-femming might re-wire the stability of the strain. Doubtfully it would be in a positive direction. (Murphy's Law)

I'm sure I'm overly cautious about this, but I've never pushed my genes that far. For me, there's no reason to, since I don't purchase femmed seeds, and I know the stability of the strains I play with before I fem 'em.

Was this close to what you were asking...?

[THContent]

Basically I just want to create more femmed seeds from purchased femmed seeds from a seedbank.

They only offer fem seeds for this strain, so that is where I am right now. I do not want to keep purchasing them when I could just make my own (of course with care and careful planning.) I know it may be tricky since the seeds purchased will be feminized. So I would have to use 2 seeds to grow 2 plants, force one to herm and grow pollen sacks, then pollenate the non stressed female plant. Would that work? It will be the same genetics.

[Rusty Trichome]

I'd never recommend getting into the habit of femming a fem. In a pinch, I'd give it a go, but I'd also think twice about purchasing expensive femmed seeds in the first place. I think the next time, since I'd have to employ femming techniques anyways, I'd chose stock from a seed bank that offers quality 'un-femmed' genetics, and fem 'em myself. Otherwise, you limit your options. My problem is, I'd run-out of the femmed seeds in no time, then what...fem a femmed fem?

You could also pollinate a plant from a femmed seed with pollen from a different strain, but that defeats the reason you purchased the good genetics in the first place.

Possible, yes.
Likely they'll be fine females...yes.
Guranteed to be fine...no.

Genetics degrade if in-breeding is employed as a consistent breeding strategy.

[WashougalWonder]

Was this close to what you were asking...?

Sort of, I think so. My issue is that I created this one plant. It is a product of many different stable females that were pollenated by nanner technology, partly accident.

I have one mother. No seeds. No way to replicate or preserve the strain unless I keep the mother alive and use her clones to acquire the stress victim for pollen for one of the unstressed clones.

I do know that when crossed with the Jedi pollen it makes a hermophrodite. Still stressing one of the mother clones to get nanners. Damn stable strain by itself.

I have a couple of these 'one-of' mothers. Essentially I want to be able to share them, and God's little package called a seed is the best way to do it!
WW