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06-27-2010, 02:54 AM #1OPSenior Member
Closing Gitmo Fades as Priority
From the New York Times
Closing Guant�¡namo Fades as a Priority - NYTimes.com
Send Khaled Sheik back to Cuba where he belongs......before a Military Tribunal.Islandborn Reviewed by Islandborn on . Closing Gitmo Fades as Priority From the New York Times Closing Guant�¡namo Fades as a Priority - NYTimes.com Send Khaled Sheik back to Cuba where he belongs......before a Military Tribunal. Rating: 5
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06-27-2010, 03:21 AM #2Senior Member
Closing Gitmo Fades as Priority
It's all a shell game anyway. Bagram is worse.
The thing that gets me are people who, when it suits our perceived needs, see no problem with semi-legal prisons, detention without trial, secret testimony, "moderate physical pressure" (actually that's an Israeli euphemism for torture but we've expropriated it as though it were just a few dunums of land...). We are taking on the trappings of so many of the regimes we detest. People would do well to watch fewer hours of 24 and instead study history.
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06-28-2010, 01:15 AM #3OPSenior Member
Closing Gitmo Fades as Priority
I, like most others, have no problem with it whatsoever. Don't hang with Jihadists or their sympathizers and you should be fine.
Ya hear that kids......you should watch made up tv shows instead of reading history books......ya heard it here first from Mr. Top 5 % himself. Words to live by.
Yea......that KUSHY little beach front resort they call Gitmo made up of all muslims together must be sooooooo rough on those supposed hardened soldiers right.......where they have football pitches and cricket games.....sounds so scary. God forbid they scare them with dogs or loud yelling and music. TORTURE i tell ya.....torture. State Prison in Texas is comparable.
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06-28-2010, 01:35 AM #4OPSenior Member
Closing Gitmo Fades as Priority
and as with closing Gitmo........that timeline for withdrawl from Afghanistan is also starting to crumble........small hints.
Obama cites 'obsession' on Afghanistan timeline - Yahoo! News
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06-28-2010, 01:51 AM #5Senior Member
Closing Gitmo Fades as Priority
Originally Posted by Islandborn
Originally Posted by bigsby
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06-28-2010, 02:05 AM #6Senior Member
Closing Gitmo Fades as Priority
Originally Posted by Islandborn
Concerning the Afghanistan time line, that does not bother me as much. First of all they were careful to leave wiggle room. Anyone who was listening knew at the time that the phrase, "subject to review" is a get-me-out-of-jail-free card. Further, this has to do with military strategy (politics too, obviously) so if the military needs more time then it is up to Obama to hear out the generals. And if you want to talk about time lines, he is on schedule in Iraq for which he deserves credit.
Islandboy, you don't know me so if you are going to characterize my position on anything please have the courage to back up your claims with some kind of evidence. Of course you won't because you can't.
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06-28-2010, 02:13 AM #7Senior Member
Closing Gitmo Fades as Priority
Originally Posted by Islandborn
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06-28-2010, 02:36 AM #8Senior Member
Closing Gitmo Fades as Priority
Originally Posted by bigsby
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06-28-2010, 11:36 AM #9Senior Member
Closing Gitmo Fades as Priority
Originally Posted by bigsby
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07-02-2010, 09:37 PM #10Senior Member
Closing Gitmo Fades as Priority
I have to wonder if he was a liar when he was speaking out against it or he now knows something that radically changed him. Either way I don't really care, we have to close gitmo, put torture back in the box, compensate those that were victims of Bush's WOT (the Canadian guy is who I'm referring too), and make permanent detention illegal.
If you compromise our values to the level of the enemy they already have won, why fight against it?
"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."
-Ben FranklinVoting GOP this year is like giving the keys back to the drunk driver that wrecked the economy when they show no remorse for their actions and haven\'t even sobered up yet.
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