Married caregivers, heads up

[copobo]

just fwded to me:
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Sent: Saturday, June 26, 2010 6:48 AM
To: Cook, Matt D.

Subject: very important 1284 questions

Mr Cook


1. When does the 5 patient caregiver limit go into effect? I've heard
7/1/2010, 7/11/2010, 9/1/2010, and 7/11/2011

answer: ((7/1/10))

2. How do *I* as a caregiver, allow only certain people to be my
patient? Anyone can sign me up with the current setup, and I would be
breaking the law unknowingly.


answer: You will need to coordinate this issue with CDPHE, but I believe only those that YOU approve/accept as patients will qualify.


3. My wife and I are both patients and caregivers. I have 5 patients,
she has 3. I hear we are no longer allowed to grow together - is this
true?

answer: I have not heard this, again ask CDPHE as I do NOT beleive it is not covered in 1284

. Why? That's what my patients are asking since I've told some they
may have to go as early as next week. This 1 month implementation
period is really a brutal way to treat patients in Colorado... but I
guess this was all about the dispensaries, not the patient. What an
unfortunate way to find the flaws that need to be worked out - 30
days!

answer: Our regulatory framwork This decision was a public policy decision, made way over my head. However, here is something for you to ponder.....if caregivers were allowed unlimited patients, why would anyone be regulated as a Center/dispensary? (Centers are created by statute and caregivers are created by the Constitution...the two are NOT the same) I hope this helps.... Take care, Matt

[rightwinger]

are you saying we can only go to the dispensary we elect after july 1 as our caregiver or can we still visit differant places for differant medicines.......
is this a new twist ???

Nope--what I mean is there are many caregivers in this state that have over 5 patients. According to what our interpretation of 1284--the caregivers are going to have to cut their patients down to 5--by July 1, 2011.

If you're unlucky enough to be one of the one's that your caregiver cuts off--you would be forced to find another private caregiver or go to a dispensory. Since caregivers are not a matter of public record--you would not know who to contact to provide those services--so most would end up in a dispensory--paying 3 times as much for more than likely--lower quality.

[rightwinger]

Romer is WRONG, I have talked with my uncle who most of you know is a DEA agent and I have talked with Lawyer. Husband and wifes are not allowed to have 5 patients each. Furthermore a husband and wife are not even allowed to grow together

There is nothing in bill 1284 that states that a husband and wife cannot grow together for their own personal use.

What it is saying is that two caregivers cannot join together--and that caregivers are limited to 5 patients.

[Reenster]

This is the part of HB1284 that effects myself and my family the most. My husband, myself, and both my son and daughter are patients. Only my husband and I live in the same house but my son and I were combining our caregiver/growing rights.

It is my understanding that both a husband and wife can grow their 6 plants each but only one of them can be a caregiver for others. So... the way I see it I can be a caregiver but my husband can not. I can have 5 patients so that is 30 plants for patients, 6 for myself and then my husband can have 6 plants as well.

This gives us a total of 42 plants which for my situation is just fine. I can no longer combine my grow with my son's however.

It is also my understanding that assigning a primary caregiver does not mean you can not grow your own 6 plants. Any other input on these situations?

[michaelnights]

In Defense of Marriage

I think the holly-rollers in Colorado Springs would picket the DPH&E if they refused husband and wife from "joining together." LOL

HB10-1284 states the DPH&E can provide an exception to a caregiver for the 5 patient rule, can consider the distance a patient lives from a dispensary, etc.

If you think like a public health bureaucrat you should be able to design a compelling exception request the DPH&E would find difficult to turn down.

a.) It will be difficult to turn down a request from a seriously ill patient. b.) Doc recommends his patient stays with their present caregiver due to positive health gains. c.) Caregiver grows an unusual variety that dispensaries refuse to grow due to the degree of cultural difficulty. d.) Caregiver makes an eye-wash not available at dispensaries. e.) Patient doesn't drive and lives too far to walk to a dispensary, etc.

[Zedleppelin]

In Defense of Marriage

I think the holly-rollers in Colorado Springs would picket the DPH&E if they refused husband and wife from "joining together." LOL

HB10-1284 states the DPH&E can provide an exception to a caregiver for the 5 patient rule, can consider the distance a patient lives from a dispensary, etc.

If you think like a public health bureaucrat you should be able to design a compelling exception request the DPH&E would find difficult to turn down.

a.) It will be difficult to turn down a request from a seriously ill patient. b.) Doc recommends his patient stays with their present caregiver due to positive health gains. c.) Caregiver grows an unusual variety that dispensaries refuse to grow due to the degree of cultural difficulty. d.) Caregiver makes an eye-wash not available at dispensaries. e.) Patient doesn't drive and lives too far to walk to a dispensary, etc.

And Amendment 20 states that the DPH can study and add new health ailments for MMJ which has not happened once in 10 years. Anyone who thinks they are going to give anyone an exception from 5 patients is dreaming.

[telephone]

[email protected] <[email protected]>
Fri, Jun 25, 2010 at 7:39 PM
Reply-To: [email protected]
To: Pablo <[email protected]>

Thx. You and your wife can each have five patients and each can have six plants.

Is it just me or does Senator Romer answer his emails like a fourteen year old girl?

[donnadanko]

Is it just me or does Senator Romer answer his emails like a fourteen year old girl?

I think they do have kids answer the emails?

[telephone]

I think they do have kids answer the emails?

LOL :jointsmile:

[Zedleppelin]

Is it just me or does Senator Romer answer his emails like a fourteen year old girl?

You don't give 14 year olds enough credit. imp: