Quote Originally Posted by dkgpro
I'm not saying the Christian god was the cause of all this, merely A higher power, and another good point about the creator having to be created, there could be higher powers above higher powers, God, Buddha, Ala, all could have been different higher powers, or rather all the same godly figure just differentiated by different cultures and religions.
The link you provided with your "proof" is definitely Christian. You should maybe distance yourself from that if that's not your belief. From the Christian point of view none of those other "gods" are possible because there is only yahweh (in three parts) . . .

Quote Originally Posted by dkgpro
Our universe not only has order to where our life could've been possible but sustains the same, temperature, distance, etc it needs to for us to survive today and does everyday.
So far it has. Mankind has only been the dominant life form on this planet for a fraction of it's existence. One dominant species ruled the planet for far longer than we've been mucking about. Besides, if the conditions were different, there would be a different form of life pointing out how everything was perfect for their form of life. Just because the conditions were (and are for now) perfect for us to arrive doesn't prove the existence of god.

Quote Originally Posted by dkgpro
Just because god is capable creating our life and everything we know, which obviously seems complex and orderly and amazing to us, doesn't quite mean were even a spec of what could be possible.

You say god couldn't have just happened because he'd be an incomprehensibly complex being, but he's only incomprehensibly complex from our tiny species point of view.
The universe is only complex from our same point of view. If you say complexity and order must have a creator, then that creator must have a creator. That's simple logic.