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[2600]

Everything has it's plusses and minuses. I would hope that those of us who love smoking, understand it is a drug (btw there is a distinction b/t drug and psychoactive drug, of which weed is both), and that inhaling smoke of any kind is hazardous. Isn't it less so if you smoke monthly compared to blasting bong hits daily? Of course. And of course there are more dangerous drugs out there, but lets be real. It's probably not going to kill you, but it's also not 100% safe.

BTW- if weed HASN'T increased potency significantly over the years, that is a PATHETIC statement about growers. The principles of natural selection would apply- the dna of the "strongest" plants should be selected more than the weaker ones. The only confounding variable here (and relates to the above issue), is that THC is not the only drug in weed. We haven't even studied all of the psychoactive chemicals in weed, much less the thousand or so other chemicals created when combusted. So it could be that when we are selecting the most powerful plant, there is a chance we are also selecting the effects of an altogether different chemical in addition to THC!

[2600]

I guess if your soo smart GreenGaucho running around the forums trying to make others seem lesser then yourself due to your extensive knowledge of the english language and people. Maybe ill find where you live put a bullet though your brain and lick it off the wall it splatters on to gain your deep wisdom.

Good point, I hadn't thought about this issue from that perspective before.

[GHoSToKeR]

lol 2600, nice comment

[ScarlettCrush]

weed does not make you lazy, though it does give you a reason to sit around and giggle at nothing. Lazy happens when you have no motivation which is not connected to marijuanna smoking at all considering to smoke it you need money to buy it; which is motivation enough to get off your ass and make some money.
I hate steriotypes.
My roommate doesn't smoke weed and she's the laziest slobbiest bitch I ever met. I smoke daily and yet manage to run my own (fairly successful and busy) business and keep on top of my shit.

[Reefer Rogue]

Whoever agrees with Green Gaucho over Nullific in this discussion, imo is wrong.

[OreO]

SHUT THE FUCK UP!!!


if u smoke...u smoke...

if u dont...u dont...

how bout lets all stop trying to tell eachother whats goods and whats bad about the drug and let everybody find out the hard way...


just fucking smoke and be happy...this is the internet dont take shit personal

[kyle]

I agree with Nullific because - in my opinion; he is the most educated user on this site. No it is not "good" for you, it can give you cancer. But then again - sunlight gives you skin cancer, eating at mcdonalds too much will destroy your liver (I'm not wrong, watch 'Super Size Me'). Most things on this planet are not entirely "good" for you, the toxins in the air we breath from the pollutants are far from "good", all the chemical enhancements and steroids in our food is not "good" for us. Nullific has facts to back up his statements, whats-his-face does not. Obviously marijuana has increased in potency but not to a huge degree, and in theory; we would smoke less now considering it is more potent.

In any case, it is a drug that we all partake in. Like ghostoker and a few others have said - 'everything in moderation.'

[Nullific]

Never said it was 100% harmless, only that its not a bad thing and its definately not as bad for your lungs as tobacco smoke for several reasons.

Many people don't realize that there is a difference between marijuana smoke and tobacco smoke, marijuana smoke does not contain polonium 210 whereas tobacco smoke does.
People like to talk about 'tar', tar this tar that...tar is not what causes lung cancer. Polonium 210, however, "is the only component in cigarette smoke tar that has produced cancers by itself in laboratory animals as a result of inhalation exposure". (Yuille CL, Berke HL, Hull T. Lung cancer following Pb210 inhalation in rats. Radiat Res. 1967;31:760-774)

Marijuana has been used for thousands of years, and since the day of George Washington in the United States yet there are no known cases of death that can attributed to the use of marijuana. Of all the studies done, none have been able to link smoking cannabis directly with cancers or life threatening damage to the lungs.
http://my.webmd.com/content/article/23/1728_57309
http://www.mapinc.org/drugnews/v03/n1432/a02.html
http://www.cannabisnews.com/news/thread10025.shtml

THC and other cannabinoids are antioxidants, they have been shown in laboratory studies to prevent the growth of, shrink and destroy tumors. Further research will be done involving humans.
Hampson et.al 98
http://www.alternet.org/story/9257

Anecdotal explainations for why smoking marijuana is harmful do present a seemingly logical argument. That marijuana and tobacco smoke are similar, that marijuana smoke contains more 'tar' and that cannabis smokers hold smoke deep into their lungs.
What it leaves out is that cannabis smokers who smoke a couple times a day typically inhale much less smoke than tobacco smokers who smoke several cigarettes per day, polonium 210 is not present in marijuana smoke but is instead rich in antioxidants.
This is not to say heavy marijuana smokers cannot develop cough or bronchial infections, im sure it happens and I have noted threads where some have discussed their lung problems but then there are the people who have been smoking for decades and report no problems with their lungs. Of course the negatives even if occuring in a minority of smokers are going to stand out more.

[chris420]

LFMAO damn dude that sux ass, i wouldve just left the room right away.. i love telling this to everyone that talk all that horse shit and think nothing will change their mind.
"Your denial is beneath you, and thanks to the use of hallucinogenic drugs i see through you." the late Bill Hicks

[NowhereMan]

Actually, your mother is probably right. The only things that are unrelated to weed are the parts about cliffs and beating your wife. First of all, drug is defined as any substance, organic or chemical, which alters one's state of mind. Does marijuana do this? yes. Second, THC is much more concentrated than it used to be and many people can get addicted because they need a constant supply of of THC after smoking for so long. If you disagree, then I'd like you to try to stop smoking for a year. I guarantee you'll be irritable and have withdrawal symptoms at first, I've seen it happen. Third, of course there's probably some guy who wasn't able to hold a job because of weed. Bottom line is, it can make you lazy if you don't even attempt to be active and just smoke too much. Sure as hell doesn't sound unreasonable to me. And also, yes I know driving under the influence is negligble, but it truly does make people's reaction times slower. You can't argue that you'd be just as good a driver if you were high because it's simply not true. Sure I agree that alcohol is a far worse substance, but that has nothing to do with anything. People need to stop trying to justify their problems.

must say with all honesty
i do in fact drive better when ive smoked up
i have no road rage when idiots do the dumb shit ,i relax a lil more in heavy traffic instead of getting frustrated,my mind is more able to calibrate the events going on in real time,instaed of yammering away with problems and agenda's and all the things one has on their minds when driving besides the road,in other words i concentrate better
givin im bi polar and it may just be a mood thing or possiblly thata few tokes will slow down the rushing thoughts thru my head to where i can actually understand and comprehend without effort.

now i dont mean smoke up hell till ya bugged eyed
that be like driving half asleep
peace