How-To: Make your own feminized seeds.

[LetsSeeYa]

No. I'm fairly certain that stress tolerance is determined by the genes, not the treatments, unless the treatments are hormones or steroids. Hormones and steroids are likely to alter the genes, but the genetic change is not at all limited to the hermaphrodism you are refering to. They can also mess with growth habits, aroma, leaf structure and expression, internode spacing, the time it takes to finish, trichome spacing and structure, THC:CBN ratios...

Nice try though...:thumbsup:

Well i am no chemist so i would never touch the stuff, just wondering why someone would go through all that when you can keep hermy pollen for what, 6 months in the fridge? And hermy ratio is the same. I guess if your method is something you enjoy, then i guess i understand.

Thanks Rusty:rasta:

[JustinCglass]

silver it self is a heavy metal. so due to the history of heavy metals (lead, tin, barium, molybdenum, on and on and on)
naturely one would want to avoid such a material.

Silver, niobium, titanium, and some other heavy metals have almost no interaction in the human body. It mostly passes through via the digestive track.

the condition you speak of is caused when you over load your system's way of getting rid of heavy metals.
eccesive silver is stored in you fat cells, giving you a grey complection.
you can take CS by the directions on the bottle and not contract
so if you do smoke your bud that has been dowsed in silver
and drink CS by the gallon everyday,you will most likly turn grey.
you'd turn grey from that amount of CS anyway
Do some research

[oldhaole]

Rusty,...

This is above my paygrade.

A friend just noticed a few seeds in his outdoor crop. Went on the male search and found three open male flowers, in a single cluster, dried up in a bottom branch in a tied down regrow. This regrow was planted in Feb and had flowered in May. The May harvest had no male parts...and was very tasty.

My question is are the seeds female?

This is the first time I have seen an already harvested regrow throw male parts this far into the second harvest. As a rule, if they are male or hermi, we catch them on or before the first harvest.

The plant had been pulled down low, and he under waters, but I wouldn't call this plant heavily stressed. The male flowers were in the shade though.

He is kinda bummed, I would like to tell him he at least got some good female seeds out of the deal...did he?

Much Mahalo

[Rusty Trichome]

Those aren't male nanners, they're female nanners. A 'she' has no male chromosomes to make male seeds.

If the strain is stout and normally nanner-free, Something happened recently to stress her. The seeds from these female nanners will be 100% female, but make sure they (the seeds) are mature before harvest.
If the strain is normally nanner free, try and save some pollen for future fems. Any lady would love her pollen. Pollen will keep in the fridge for months, barring any external moisture. Keep in an airtight, watertight container. Habitual underwatering is stressful, so this may be the cause. Would have to fill-out a troubleshooting form to try and pinpoint the cause though.

But if the strain is a known hermie, the hermie trait will be carried-on to successive generations, so don't save the pollen. :thumbsup:

Seeded calyxes' get a yellowish 'racing stripe' from base to tip. Hard to miss once you recognize 'em.

Now that he knows there's nanners, keep looking. The more seeds she makes, the less he'll end-up with in smokable yield. He might want to look in the buds for the yellowish nanners, too. Nanners aren't limited to visible nodes. Don't destroy the buds looking, though. This would be counter-productive.

[cdouglas869]

nice thread THcontent, Question when I find a bannana they are very small. I have yet to find anything that looks like pollen. How many do I need in a baggie? Why don't I see any pollen? Thanks

[leftreartire]

man sure sounds like alot of work to go thru and still take the chance of unstable genetics that could cause hemi's and screw up your entire grow sooner or later. why not just let your plants breed true. they way mother natured intended. it only take 1 male to pollenate an entire field of females.
my thoughts are if you germinate 100 seeds that you would have 99% rate of getting a females if you give them a stress free enviroment to grow in.
and breeding true and not dirupting the genetic make up of your plant will give you better yeilds and sooner later you will miss a hemi down deep in the plant and lose an entire grow to seed. some things are just better left alone

[DrWalter]

Have always heard that you can stress a plant into being female by using a higher light cycle during seedling and veg cycle ? A 16+ hour light cycle

[Rusty Trichome]

man sure sounds like alot of work to go thru and still take the chance of unstable genetics that could cause hemi's and screw up your entire grow sooner or later. why not just let your plants breed true. they way mother natured intended. it only take 1 male to pollenate an entire field of females.
my thoughts are if you germinate 100 seeds that you would have 99% rate of getting a females if you give them a stress free enviroment to grow in.
and breeding true and not dirupting the genetic make up of your plant will give you better yeilds and sooner later you will miss a hemi down deep in the plant and lose an entire grow to seed. some things are just better left alone

Garbage in...garbage out. Start with a stable strain, and you'll end-up with stable femmed seeds, if done properly. Each and every strain and phenotype I have played with has the ability to be femmed, (which for most users is a huge time saving and space saving bonus) so speaking from personal experience, your info regarding turning your plants into hermies is not at all a valid concern. (your info is wrong)

Can a newcomer screw this process up? Sure. However they can screw-up 'normal' breeding and stress the ladies, too. But most hermies are from improper care, not an unstable strain. Doing stuff like making femmed seeds from a femmed lady that came from femmed seeds to begin with, and you'll eventually breed-in the ability to hermie with a minimum of stress. (undesirable)

[Dogznova]

Rusty.... Glad to see your still on your game...

IMO that needs to be the last post of this tread... :thumbsup:

[khyberkitsune]

"Doing stuff like making femmed seeds from a femmed lady that came from femmed seeds to begin with, and you'll eventually breed-in the ability to hermie with a minimum of stress. (undesirable) "

I think this is the most commonly-overlooked thing when it comes to most breeders and I am damned glad you pointed this out, Rusty - many rely too heavily upon 'guaranteed' (aka forced-feminized) female genetics and through unnatural ratios of male to female genetic production eventually breed in the adaptation to go hermaphrodite at the drop of a hat.

Granted, this doesn't happen THAT often, but we've all likely seen reports of some batches of certain feminized seed stock being almost 100% hermaphrodite from the get-go, even in some of the most prime growing conditions. My personal thoughts go as follows - No more than two generations straight of feminized-refined product, then you need to re-stabilize with fresh unmodified genetics before going through the refining process again, rinse and repeat until you have your desired result. Of course, in the game of genetics, you can't guarantee anything, but from personal experience in preserving landraces for the Dutch and refining those landraces to my personal tastes, this simple regimen seems to keep things quite stable.

Quality post, Rusty, even though you and I disagree and argue on other stuff!