Quote Originally Posted by gypski
Just like Bush, Obama was never involved in the tactical mission. They leave that up to the experts. Any failures rest with McChrystal. Again, Obama is cleaning up a Bush/Cheney mess.
gypski, I am not trying to argue or anything with you about this :jointsmile: but I guess I just see it different. I hold the President responsible for war casulties beginning the moment he takes the oath. From that moment on no one but he is responsible for all aspects of it, tactical, strategic, logistically, etc... all of it. as long as we are engaged in combat, he owns it. Maybe its because I've never been in the military but that is just how I see it.

But, I do agree that Shrub was no military genious either. This is exactly the reason I voted for John McCain. I thought he would make a good Commander in Chief with his experience. :twocents:
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