LED Ahoy!

[LetsSeeYa]

I have my new lights coming in about a week, so I'll get myself going then. I'm going to do my clone cutting tomorrow, most likely.

Thats cool man, i have plants im waiting to get big enough to clone now. They are all Purples so i cant freaking wait after my Purple was ripped outside last year. I bought a cloner, but not sure if i got the right one. Its the aero type. Do you know if i need a special timer for it as it will continuously be spraying water with rooting hormone i n the res. Or should i just let it run till they have enough roots. I thought about getting rock wool cubes and sticking them in so id have something more then only roots to work with, just easier for me to mess with. Its only a 5 site cloner by Botanicare, its a ''Daisy''? Thought it might make things easier, but not sure now.

You got the Welthink lights, right? Those are perfect in a 2x4 tent - 300w in 8 square feet will be awesome. Most people use a 400w HPS in 9 square feet, and your 2x4 area is perfect for those two lights to run down the widest part of the tent.

My lights are just like str8s so if thats the Welthink, then thats what i have, i do know they have the 3w diodes. Im new to them so there will be some learning to do so iv been reading all the LED grows i can. But man i was really worried about the tent, so ya took a ton of worry off my back man. I was going to get the 4 x 4, but this one fits where i want to put it. I has hoping that it wouldn't be to much light for the plants. I thought about using Scrog and then lots of lolly-popping. I think i could do a nice Scrog, if i can manage to tie ever thing. I also thought of putting in a shelf about 2' high to make it easy for me to reach the plants, i will still have 3' to work a Scrog and if i lollipop, i can take it out or just keep them short. But we shall see, im just glad to be able to care for them as that other space will be done when that plant finishes, i sure hope the LED's build buds like iv seen here and a few other logs:thumbsup:

The tent is sitting here, but im thinking im going to need help getting it together and its killing me. My Purples are getting big in the box they are in, but still in party cups. But as looking at them today, i think they will only be good in them one more week. My hydro guy is sending me bigger pots so when they get here il have to re pot the cups. They look nice after i switched the lights i had been using, because they stretched bad. But this light fixed them up nice.

Thanks for the help man:hippy:im very relieved with the advise and suggestions. And glad to know suppliers are beating down your door with the materials you approve of!



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[khyberkitsune]

I just clone in trays of pH water in rockwool. Aerocloners run 24/7.

As for your plants, keep them fed and happy, you'll get monster results, of course this depends on strain typical yield, as well!

I also just re-signed an NDA with Anko Solara (induction manufacturer,) for development assistance. Maybe we'll see some better induction systems to go with LED!

[energyefficient]

I have always wondered about induction lighting and growing. Many converted parking lot lights from MH and HPS to induction with excellent results and amazing gains in efficiency.

top shelf work as usual.

[khyberkitsune]

Well, as to be expected, I got a returned panel, plus one of my own failed.

Well, I popped both apart, tested everything out, turns out one of my 50w just has a dead array, and the 120w had a dead driver (so only 2/3 of the panel lights up.)

Have some pictures of the individual components. Glass, panel plus thermal plate, casing, fan driver (the power driver is in the 120w, as it was still functional) fan, and connector points.

[Xperimints]

i need some advice.

backstory: i recently lost my job and don't know when i will get another one so i am pursuing growing as one way to help make ends meet.

I have been researching grow methods and lighting. I have decided to build an aeroponic/hydroponic system and use LED lighting because the heat and energy involved in HIDs is not something I want to deal with. I currently have some 1 1/2 week old seedlings in a soiless mix under a CFL that seem to be doing well so far.

Now, I have limited monetary resources that comes with being unemployed and all, so I need as little chance for big mistakes as possible (such as investing in garbage lights).

I have been looking at these lights:
120W LED Triband Hydroponic Plant Grow Light UFO II - eBay (item 290398326969 end time Jan-28-11 07:32:13 PST)

2x90W LED UFO Triband Hydroponic Plant Grow Light 7:1:1 - eBay (item 120638633937 end time Jan-22-11 23:25:46 PST)

I'm looking to have 6 to 12 plants growing in a 24 sq ft area. Am I on the right track with these lights/setup? Or am I horribly lost? Thanks for your help.

[khyberkitsune]

i need some advice.

backstory: i recently lost my job and don't know when i will get another one so i am pursuing growing as one way to help make ends meet.

I have been researching grow methods and lighting. I have decided to build an aeroponic/hydroponic system and use LED lighting because the heat and energy involved in HIDs is not something I want to deal with. I currently have some 1 1/2 week old seedlings in a soiless mix under a CFL that seem to be doing well so far.

Now, I have limited monetary resources that comes with being unemployed and all, so I need as little chance for big mistakes as possible (such as investing in garbage lights).

I have been looking at these lights:
120W LED Triband Hydroponic Plant Grow Light UFO II - eBay (item 290398326969 end time Jan-28-11 07:32:13 PST)

2x90W LED UFO Triband Hydroponic Plant Grow Light 7:1:1 - eBay (item 120638633937 end time Jan-22-11 23:25:46 PST)

I'm looking to have 6 to 12 plants growing in a 24 sq ft area. Am I on the right track with these lights/setup? Or am I horribly lost? Thanks for your help.

I'm not a fan of the 7:1:1 ratios sported by those panels but given the price I'd likely go after them as well. If you have to choose between the two, however, I would go for the dual 90w UFO, as the additional power (180w vs 120w) will help make up for the lacking blue and you would get superior coverage from two sources of light.

So close to my new lights coming in and my new setup going!

[Xperimints]

I'm not a fan of the 7:1:1 ratios sported by those panels but given the price I'd likely go after them as well. If you have to choose between the two, however, I would go for the dual 90w UFO, as the additional power (180w vs 120w) will help make up for the lacking blue and you would get superior coverage from two sources of light.

So close to my new lights coming in and my new setup going!

Thank you for replying! From what I can see you really know your stuff when it comes to LEDs. Some others on the forum have suggested that only commercial LED setups are worth buying because they can be trusted as they have been tested. I think that route would be out of my price range and if that is true then I was thinking of pursuing a fluorescent/CFL set-up. My concern is heat and energy usage as I don't want to risk fire or being flagged by my electricity company to the authorities.

Do you think those two UFOs would be enough to cover the area I need to?

I was also looking at this one : 120w LED Aquarium Coral Plant Grow Light Tri Band - eBay (item 330518256458 end time Feb-10-11 05:24:49 PST)

I would buy two of them if I decided to go with the 120w unless one would be enough.

[khyberkitsune]

"Some others on the forum have suggested that only commercial LED setups are worth buying because they can be trusted as they have been tested."

Some of the same research from my commercial stuff goes in my commercial panels, but for your price limit you're better off going with that dual 90w deal no matter what - that's speaking before I look at your most recent link - lemme look here.....

90 degrees is good, tighter beams than what I offer though that means you need to keep the panel higher from the canopy so the light blends evenly and covers everything properly.

Oh, Bridgelux diodes. personally, that is a 'No thank you.' I wouldn't go with them, as I've had problems like diode separation in even the top-bin stuff from them, so I gave them up a long time ago - Kingbright is better and has higher efficiencies besides. As I said, that dual 90w you posted earlier is still your best bet. Also, aquarium spec is far different from terrestrial plant spec, so I couldn't recommend that for you anyways, even though there is more blue, the overall array is out of prime spec for land plants.

BTW, even though my site says it (and my investors won't get rid of it, or at least correct it to be on the proper pages,) 'Thermostatically-controlled fans' is mostly BS. Very few bare fan power/controllers are truly thermostatically controlled and have the remote sensing wire installed. Only my new 300w unit and old discontinued 120w unit (only talking about my panels, here,) have them because it was necessary to maintain diode life and proper operating temps, otherwise I'd be in a load of garbage on warranties from my own personal tests (I dunno if this new 300w I have coming is using my new aluminum/carbon mix but if it is then no thermostatically-controlled fans are needed, and I'll kill that phrase from my site entirely. I hate any sort of misleading advertising or confusing advertising.)

Anyways, ignore that rant, though you should pull some info from it and previous posts. Get that dual 90w you're looking at, it's just right for you. You'll learn about LEDs at a cheap price and have very usable panels for years to come on top of that. If you need more help, I can help, so can tons of others around here, don't rely on me for all of your information! I have my ways, others have ways maybe more suited for you, though I can at least give advice if I know your situation.

[LetsSeeYa]

Hey man, if ya have time take a peek at that sick plant in the problem section. She's giving lots now:thumbsup:. Buds are getting to be a bit bigger then a dime and the growth is looking very green and healthy. I am just hoping the buds join as one and give me big colas. I am hoping i will have to tie her to the walls and ceiling, lol. I have my lights about 18'' away from my plant, do you think i should try and move them closer? I want a monster so anything i can do to help her out il try.

My tent is up, but gotta finish this plant before all my purples go into it, but might toss them in with my CFL's as i like what they do for veg and will use them till i find something better. What im thinking is a couple led panel's for a nice box to veg in as i think i should be able to get these cheap wouldn't you think? I cant wait to get into the tent man!

Man dude those LEDs look bright as hell man, good luck with the new light your working on:thumbsup:



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[khyberkitsune]

Hey man, if ya have time take a peek at that sick plant in the problem section. She's giving lots now:thumbsup:. Buds are getting to be a bit bigger then a dime and the growth is looking very green and healthy. I am just hoping the buds join as one and give me big colas. I am hoping i will have to tie her to the walls and ceiling, lol. I have my lights about 18'' away from my plant, do you think i should try and move them closer? I want a monster so anything i can do to help her out il try.

My tent is up, but gotta finish this plant before all my purples go into it, but might toss them in with my CFL's as i like what they do for veg and will use them till i find something better. What im thinking is a couple led panel's for a nice box to veg in as i think i should be able to get these cheap wouldn't you think? I cant wait to get into the tent man!

Man dude those LEDs look bright as hell man, good luck with the new light your working on:thumbsup:



:rasta:

Keep the lights as close as possible to cover everything without burning. Twelve inches might do better.

For vegging, just get one good LED panel that will cover the tent area. In veg you don't need that much LED light as long as it's quality. 3x3 tent could be covered veg-wise with a single typical 90w UFO. Two of the 135w UFOs would just barely cover a 4x8 tent for veg.