Quote Originally Posted by Antipas
The boundaries that make up our existence are space time and matter.
God must exist beyond the thing that He has created, outside that circle that gives you a headache when you think about it.

If God exists, He must be above all things, He must be single or simple, not divided or in parts, He must also be beyond space, and matter and motion, or what we know as "time".
-This doesn't mean He can't interact in existence. In fact, given the nature that He must be if He exists, He would be the one who continually sustains us through our time (matter in motion). He could not start us at one point in time and then not be there the rest of the time because it would require Him to be existing in time,-which is a part of our circle of existence, space time and matter. The Ontos of the Creator must be outside that circle. He can "get into the car and drive it" so to speak, but He must exist beyond it.

So then what can God be likened to that is not space time and matter? We are left with "nothing" when we deduct everything in our existence.
Do we say that God is nothing? It is irrational to think that "nothing" can produce our existence. There something beyond our existence that we can only observe as "nothing" from where we stand, but we know He must be there by the fact of our existence. "Nothing" didn't make us. "Something" did. Let's call this "something" God, so as to better describe the "something" that we can only observe as "nothing" from where we stand.

Deductive arguments can give us a better understanding about what is real. How does smoking pot work on those headaches you get from thinking on the Ontos of God?

Pot helps

I only meant infinite is a hard thing to comprehend. If there is a god, and he exists outside of our bubble, who made his bubble? another god? Or does his bubble go on forever? And why is it that his bubble can continue forever?

infinitely larger organisms is one of the answers my poor little brain pulled out after being cooked by the questions of how the hell can things just keep going forever as a kid