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    #11
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    Realy weird experience, need help.

    Orthostatic hypotension is the term for that.

    G13, the elevated pulse is the first indication you are dehydrated and your bodies first attempt to keep your cells in your body healthy and well oxygenated. After the pulse can no longer keep up, the BP starts to fall.

    As a paramedic the first thing I looked for in a patient that could be bleeding on the inside from a car wreck was what their pulse was doing (among other stuff). It was a quick indicator that only took moments to feel and get my info.
    (Damn I miss that career, it was sooo cool)

    I suggest you work on getting your dehydration issues corrected. Drink more fluids. A normal resting pulse in a healthy person is 60-80

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    #12
    Senior Member

    Realy weird experience, need help.

    Quote Originally Posted by WashougalWonder
    Orthostatic hypotension is the term for that.

    G13, the elevated pulse is the first indication you are dehydrated and your bodies first attempt to keep your cells in your body healthy and well oxygenated. After the pulse can no longer keep up, the BP starts to fall.

    As a paramedic the first thing I looked for in a patient that could be bleeding on the inside from a car wreck was what their pulse was doing (among other stuff). It was a quick indicator that only took moments to feel and get my info.
    (Damn I miss that career, it was sooo cool)

    I suggest you work on getting your dehydration issues corrected. Drink more fluids. A normal resting pulse in a healthy person is 60-80
    well as a youngin (12-16) i had a handfull of heatstrokes over the years but they could never tell me why. i have always been athletic, but not well-conditioned, meaning i weigh 150LBs but could never run for long periods of time, like 5 minutes and i was getting wore out, and in the case of when i played basketball id always get extremely lightheaded from running up and down the court, and get that fuzzy vision sometimes. after high school i seemed fine because i wasnt doing anything anymore but just turning wrenches at work(mechanic), so i never noticed or thought anything wrong. BUT, 2 years ago i crashed my car into a tellephone pole at about 40mph head on. my chest crushed and broke my steering wheel. i cant explain the pain it caused to my chest, it felt like i was broken and i literaly could not move without it causing major pain, even when i breathed in and out it was very harsh pain... well anyways my point is, the docs said i was fine, they couldnt find any broken ribs, but said they couldnt tell if any were fractured. i was told the inside lining of my chest was just intensely bruised. but i can feel the left side of my ribcage "sticking out" farther then my right side. they never "found" anything wrong. and since then ive had bad insomnia, easy brusing, noticed blood in stool-multiple times but not "alot", nose bleeds, constant dyarihea, low urination, headaches, fatigueness, short of breathe, heavy feeling lungs, phlem in throat, and cough, but when i go in to the hospital they just tell me im fine...i think i should tell them about the low blood pressure bein a possible cause, because they dont know how to realy "diagnose" someone properly here and "find" out whats wrong with you, and its made me quit going. do you think they will actualy try and help me this time now that i have an idea what it is washougal? well thanks anyway
    \"The very existence of flamethrowers proves that sometime, somewhere, someone said to themselves, ā??You know, I want to set those people over there on fire, but Iā??m just not close enough to get the job done.ā?\"

    \"I donā??t have pet peeves ā?? I have major psychotic fucking hatreds!\"

    \"The reason I talk to myself is because Iā??m the only one whose answers I accept.\"

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    #13
    Senior Member

    Realy weird experience, need help.

    Was this your first time smoking this strain? You described the vision part the way a person would get a head rush from standing up too quick. Did you actually get a headrush, or did you only experience the fuzzy vision and sweating?

    Some strains are known to bring on ocular migraines, and not many people know about them. It's not painful like a normal migraine, but it interupts vision like you described and brings on the sweating. This tends to happen to me when I smoke indicas, which is normally why I stick to the sativas. I hate that vision crap, because then it creates a whole new anxiety for me.

    Just something to consider, however what most people on here say about blood pressure, dehydration, etc. makes more sense.
    I\'m like Medusa. Every thread I touch turns to stone.

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    #14
    Senior Member

    Realy weird experience, need help.

    ... and with the large-amounts-of! water, I'd also make sure you got a bit more salt in ya. IODISED salt. You may be lacking in this trace mineral...

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    #15
    Senior Member

    Realy weird experience, need help.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nancy007
    Was this your first time smoking this strain? You described the vision part the way a person would get a head rush from standing up too quick. Did you actually get a headrush, or did you only experience the fuzzy vision and sweating?

    Some strains are known to bring on ocular migraines, and not many people know about them. It's not painful like a normal migraine, but it interupts vision like you described and brings on the sweating. This tends to happen to me when I smoke indicas, which is normally why I stick to the sativas. I hate that vision crap, because then it creates a whole new anxiety for me.

    Just something to consider, however what most people on here say about blood pressure, dehydration, etc. makes more sense.
    this was my friends cannabis that he grows and he called it "indy1" so yes it was indica. after i took the 2nd hit, my vision went 100% "gray out-fuzzy", just like when i stand up to quickly, it usualy gets a lil fuzzy but goes right away. but this was a 100% no vision at all for like 5-10 minutes and i was sweating like crazy i gues. i remember feeling realy weak i think too. ive smoked alot of GOOD indicas and never had any problems like this before, or with any weed in general... im used to smoking very high quality BBerry, purp kush, AK47, and a pure indica from a different source(mmj friend) and ive never had any problems but coughing my lungs up(haha that strong of shit) and this stuff is 100 times better then what i had smoked this night that it happened.
    \"The very existence of flamethrowers proves that sometime, somewhere, someone said to themselves, ā??You know, I want to set those people over there on fire, but Iā??m just not close enough to get the job done.ā?\"

    \"I donā??t have pet peeves ā?? I have major psychotic fucking hatreds!\"

    \"The reason I talk to myself is because Iā??m the only one whose answers I accept.\"

    -George Carlin
    R.I.P.

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    #16
    Senior Member

    Realy weird experience, need help.

    Quote Originally Posted by CovertCarpenter
    ... and with the large-amounts-of! water, I'd also make sure you got a bit more salt in ya. IODISED salt. You may be lacking in this trace mineral...
    a lack of salt? never thought of that one, thank you for your input covert. apreciated.

    im tryin my best health wise to make sure now that i get all my minerals and vitamins, cause obviously my body must be having a huge deficiency along with the dehydration, low blood pressure and abnormal heart rate.
    \"The very existence of flamethrowers proves that sometime, somewhere, someone said to themselves, ā??You know, I want to set those people over there on fire, but Iā??m just not close enough to get the job done.ā?\"

    \"I donā??t have pet peeves ā?? I have major psychotic fucking hatreds!\"

    \"The reason I talk to myself is because Iā??m the only one whose answers I accept.\"

    -George Carlin
    R.I.P.

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    #17
    Senior Member

    Realy weird experience, need help.

    Well G13, I cannot say. Interesting case there, the pulmonary contusion (lung bruise should have no long lasting effect, actually none of the stuff you mention fits.

    My suggestion is find a General Practicioner, talk to the doc. Let the doc figure out. Be honest, describe clearly. I hope you have a good one, this sounds very unique. The GP will probably do some tests and might refer you.

    Cannot say, none of what you describe makes any sense to me with my limited medical knowledge which is limited to the level of Paramedic.

    I would also monitor my blood pressure and pulse rate at the time of the blood pressure for the doctor between now and then. Time of day, maybe 3 different times of day.

    Salt can cause you to retain water. Too much salt and you will pee it off and maybe make things worse. We are all lay docs here, I think you need a real doc to sort this out.

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    #18
    Senior Member

    Realy weird experience, need help.

    Quote Originally Posted by G13budsmoker
    a lack of salt? never thought of that one, thank you for your input covert. apreciated.

    im tryin my best health wise to make sure now that i get all my minerals and vitamins, cause obviously my body must be having a huge deficiency along with the dehydration, low blood pressure and abnormal heart rate.
    I only mention it because I have had some of the same health issues as yourself, and came across a study one day a couple of years ago on the 'net by a gentleman who was unfortunate enough to find himself imprisoned in one of our contemporary concentration camps, and, as a doctor, found himself thrust into the unfortunate role as 'camp inmate doctor'.

    How much help or supplies do you think they gave him? ...In the current (or recently passed) Middle East...

    He persevered. After a while, interestingly, he found that 85% of his patients could be treated with a combination of an increase of water intake, and an increase of salt, with attention paid to making sure the patient's iodine quotient was decent...

    He voluntarily stayed in the camp two years (iirc) after his sentence was up, merely to complete his study...

    Gotta love science. True Science... no matter where it comes from.

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    #19
    Senior Member

    Realy weird experience, need help.

    Quote Originally Posted by WashougalWonder
    Well G13, I cannot say. Interesting case there, the pulmonary contusion (lung bruise should have no long lasting effect, actually none of the stuff you mention fits.

    My suggestion is find a General Practicioner, talk to the doc. Let the doc figure out. Be honest, describe clearly. I hope you have a good one, this sounds very unique. The GP will probably do some tests and might refer you.

    Cannot say, none of what you describe makes any sense to me with my limited medical knowledge which is limited to the level of Paramedic.

    I would also monitor my blood pressure and pulse rate at the time of the blood pressure for the doctor between now and then. Time of day, maybe 3 different times of day.

    Salt can cause you to retain water. Too much salt and you will pee it off and maybe make things worse. We are all lay docs here, I think you need a real doc to sort this out.
    well those were "symptoms" i notice i still have, may not exactly be from the wreck, just stuff ive noticed. well ill have to find a good doc cause the ones here in this town are worthless, unless you have the "H1N1" like they told me last time i was sick....but anyways the only good docs in this state are in seattle and i know thats way out of the reach for me, so ill have to settle with someone in my area, but ill find out who has a good reputation and try. i checked the notes from the day after my wreck(only notes i have right now) and my BP was this over a course of 2.5 hours or so...126/80, 123/61, 112/57, 120/77, 133/69, 114/62. are these normal? i will dig up more recent docs that have my BP on them and compare them to these numbers
    \"The very existence of flamethrowers proves that sometime, somewhere, someone said to themselves, ā??You know, I want to set those people over there on fire, but Iā??m just not close enough to get the job done.ā?\"

    \"I donā??t have pet peeves ā?? I have major psychotic fucking hatreds!\"

    \"The reason I talk to myself is because Iā??m the only one whose answers I accept.\"

    -George Carlin
    R.I.P.

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    #20
    Senior Member

    Realy weird experience, need help.

    Hey dude, I am almost positive you have figured out why you had this problem, because I have had the same thing happen two times now.. Its like almost passing out/blacking out but with out losing consciousness.. kinda scary.

    You probably just didnt have enough energy in your system (food/water)

    This has actually happened to me too. I am almost positive that you were dehydrated or didnt eat because, both times that happened to me, that was the case! And you already mentioned not eating that day.

    Just make sure you eat and drink properly now and you should not experience that again! Peace dude

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