The experiment...going wrong?

[Weezard]

"I'm looking for an outside spot at the mo...slugs everywhere "


For slugs, and snails
You might try some wide masking tape covered in tanglfoot and wrapped around the pots.
(First, wrap, dem smear, it's messy stuff)
I use it to stop ants but have had no slug damage since I started.
Guess da slimey no like da sticky.
I did consider sprinkling a li'l salt on da TF but it seems to work without that.

Aloha,
Weezard

[thebeat]

alright so here are my plants...bigger one is three weeks today and the smaller one is about 17-18 days old? :wtf: everything seemed to be going fine until this morning I noticed the yellowing of the lower leaves on the younger smaller plant and it also droops at night...but perks up in the morning :wtf: something the other plant does not do!?

[Rusty Trichome]

Without perlite or vermiculite to lighten the medium and provide air pockets, the medium can get muddy and suffocate the roots. This condition will lock-out any moisture or nutrient uptake. The soil might be holding the moisture too well.

What kind of medium (soil) are you using? It looks rich, but incomplete.

[thebeat]

Its a sphagnum moss peat with added nutrients and a wetting agent so yeah sounds about rite what your saying:thumbsup:...aeration maybe an issue...the only compaction would have been from the watering I gave it after I re-potted ...but as you can see from the other pic the second older plant is doing much better but then again each plant is different! There is nothing really I can do about it at the moment is their? Suppose i'll just keep a close watch on it for a while! What about the bigger plant , think its good enough to brave the outside yet?
PEAS OUT! :hippy:

[Rusty Trichome]

Just being aware of the problem helps you keep an eye on 'em. Perhaps adjusting watering schedule would be a benefit, but that depends on local conditions, dry times, plant uptake...
I'd also transplant a tad early into their next pot, with perlite or vermiculite added to the mix. :thumbsup:

Peat is very acidic. Did you mix your own? (is the soil ph buffered?)

I've found it's easiest to use a commercial potting mix, rather than to mix your own. Consistent, cheap and reliable. (or they wouldn't be in business for long)

[thebeat]

no I didn't mix my own its a commercial batch!(for seedlings and such ...so it says anyhow! :thumbsup: wouldn't trust myself to tell you the truth! Is vermite expensive or would I be able to get it in the local garden centre? I mean I was planning on going all natural and planting out in the wild fro a proper outdoor grow! :wtf: But i'm still open to suggestion! The yellowing hasnt gotten any worse today so i'll keep an eye on it now. Great sunny weather and heat at the moment should boost growth
peas out :hippy:

[Rusty Trichome]

Not sure just how long the buffering capacity of seedling mixes lasts. But I'm pretty sure they are buffered to a lower ph to begin with, and the ph crashes when those buffers run-out. My guess is that the manufacturer adds just enough limestone to last a seedling till it's first transplant into a longer-term mix. (perhaps a couple of weeks...?)

Likely best to save what you have for germinating seeds, and get some 'regular' potting soil for the rest of the plant cycle. Better particle size for maturing plants, too.

I prefer perlite, but both are usually available at most nurseries.

Personal Opinion Section:
I have no problems with using organic products if they are a cheaper product. But to me, going organic is secondary to what works, and what I can reasonably afford. You don't need 10 different bottles of organic crap to grow quality meds.

[thebeat]

yeah looking more closely I reckon it is slightly alkaline! There is added lime in the potting soil but yeah probably should invest is some larger structured stuff! :thumbsup: keep you updated
PEAS OUT :hippy:

[thebeat]

ok people, here is how it is...going to replant into open ground within the next week and the area im going to plant in is peaty and almost surely acidic and lacking in many nutrients so I'm thinking...bring soil to it and plant it in it I have uploaded the latest pics the older one is showing some lightning of the older leaves and the younger one (by four days or something) is still showing the yellowing of the lower leaves. I know you rusty reckon its a soil problem and your almost certainly right but I would like an op on the other one as the lightning of the leaves is in the upper leaves with the bottom ones unaffected. Opinions and thoughts appreciated! :thumbsup:

Peas out!

[LetsSeeYa]

"I'm looking for an outside spot at the mo...slugs everywhere "


For slugs, and snails
You might try some wide masking tape covered in tanglfoot and wrapped around the pots.
(First, wrap, dem smear, it's messy stuff)
I use it to stop ants but have had no slug damage since I started.
Guess da slimey no like da sticky.
I did consider sprinkling a li'l salt on da TF but it seems to work without that.

Aloha,
Weezard

Since iv put steel wool around my plants and kept the weeds away, notta snail. These damn things eat very fast and gave me to many problems so i was told sand paper, egg shells or anything rough they do not like. Bingo, steel wool wrapped around the plant stops them dead as they are very fragile, so one poke an there off to die. And a rat or mouse will not chew it, great to put in the creaks in your house. Goggle steel wool an rats, its interesting:thumbsup:

SeeYa:rasta: