Care Giver Questions...

[davemw]

Sounds like it will be a go big or go home type thing.

Either I trash the idea, or decide to ramp it up and get OPCL status.

davemw Reviewed by davemw on 05-25-2010. Care Giver Questions... Hey Folks, I've been doing a lot of reading and still have a lot of questions about being a care giver. My situation: I have my own MMJ Lic. and I plan to grow for myself and others as a stated caregiver. However the laws \ 1284 doesn't explain clearly how many patients I can supply. I'm wanting to set up a private hydro-grow in my home. I'd like to service 8 patients with 48 plants, but the way 1284 reads, it sounds like I can only service 5 patients and myself. Can I grow for 8 Rating: 5

[lampost]

OPCL?

Can someone clarify? Acronyms bug the shit out of me.... in other words ABTSOOM....

Laugh-Out-Loud!

[COzigzag]

OPCL?

Can someone clarify? Acronyms bug the shit out of me.... in other words ABTSOOM....

Laugh-Out-Loud!

Just a guess but I think it means "optional premises cultivation license."

[HighPopalorum]

WTF am i supposed to do with all the extra if i can't sell it to a despensery...

Send it my way and I'll smoke it for you.

[TheReleafCenter]

Just a guess but I think it means "optional premises cultivation license."

Nailed it. Sorry about the acronyms, I'm just sick of typing optional premises cultivation license.

[cowgirl1]

Here is my understanding of the law after talking with a lawyer and my not so nice DEA uncle.

You are allowed 5 patients no more. The only way around 5 patients for a caregiver is to have your patient apply to the state to allow you to service them. The caregiver can then service an extra patient if approved by the state. " I think you will have a better chance of winning the lottery.

A caregiver is allowed 6 plants. 3 of those in flower and 3 in veg, clones etc. You can have a Doctor state that you need more then the above allowed plants "6". However, the loop whole to that is. If Law Enforcement comes knocking on your door and they want to be real jerks they can arrest you, then when you get to court you have to have your Doctor come to court and tell the judge why you need more then 6 plants. I would suspect getting your Doctor to come to court will not be cheap.

As a caregiver you are allowed to have 6 plants for each patients. Same rules apply 1/2 in flower 1/2 in veg, clones etc.

As to selling to dispencaries. If you are a caregiver and you sell to dispencaries you can be arrested. It is now against the law for caregivers to sell to dispencaries and both the caregiver and dispencary owner can be arrested.

Here is the real kicker. Lets say you have 5 patients and yourself. You are allowed to have in your possession "at home" two ounces of dried marijuana for yourself and two ounces for each patient. That comes to 12 ounces, when you harvest and dry your weed lets say it comes to 13 ounces or more. The extra has to be thrown away asap. If leo comes and you have 13 plus ounces you are in violation and can be arrested.

As you are leaving your house to drop off 2 ounces to your patient and you think, shoot maybe another patient or two will call while I am out. I better grab 10 ounces just in case " remember at home you are allowed the 10 ounces with 5 patients and yourself. However, you take off down the road and get stopped for speeding. The cops find your 10 ounces but you do not have all the paperwork for all your patients to cover the 10 ounces with you because you forgot it on the coffee table you just have the paperwork for the one person you are dropping off to. Guess what? you are now in violation of state law and subject for arrest.


As to everyone talking about the 100 limit to stay under radar of the DEA. Remember this if you have seeds around the DEA counts seeds too. One seed equals one plant. So, in other words if you have 90 plants and 11 awesome seeds tucked away under your bed that you are saving for a special season as far as the DEA feels you have 90 plants plus eleven seeds which equals 101 plants. Same as having 1 plant and 100 seeds, you know have 101 plants.

[TheReleafCenter]

Has the DEA uncle given any info about what to expect in terms of federal directives?

[throatstick]

Here is my understanding of the law after talking with a lawyer and my not so nice DEA uncle.

You are allowed 5 patients no more. The only way around 5 patients for a caregiver is to have your patient apply to the state to allow you to service them. The caregiver can then service an extra patient if approved by the state. " I think you will have a better chance of winning the lottery.

A caregiver is allowed 6 plants. 3 of those in flower and 3 in veg, clones etc. You can have a Doctor state that you need more then the above allowed plants "6". However, the loop whole to that is. If Law Enforcement comes knocking on your door and they want to be real jerks they can arrest you, then when you get to court you have to have your Doctor come to court and tell the judge why you need more then 6 plants. I would suspect getting your Doctor to come to court will not be cheap.

As a caregiver you are allowed to have 6 plants for each patients. Same rules apply 1/2 in flower 1/2 in veg, clones etc.

As to selling to dispencaries. If you are a caregiver and you sell to dispencaries you can be arrested. It is now against the law for caregivers to sell to dispencaries and both the caregiver and dispencary owner can be arrested.

Here is the real kicker. Lets say you have 5 patients and yourself. You are allowed to have in your possession "at home" two ounces of dried marijuana for yourself and two ounces for each patient. That comes to 12 ounces, when you harvest and dry your weed lets say it comes to 13 ounces or more. The extra has to be thrown away asap. If leo comes and you have 13 plus ounces you are in violation and can be arrested.

As you are leaving your house to drop off 2 ounces to your patient and you think, shoot maybe another patient or two will call while I am out. I better grab 10 ounces just in case " remember at home you are allowed the 10 ounces with 5 patients and yourself. However, you take off down the road and get stopped for speeding. The cops find your 10 ounces but you do not have all the paperwork for all your patients to cover the 10 ounces with you because you forgot it on the coffee table you just have the paperwork for the one person you are dropping off to. Guess what? you are now in violation of state law and subject for arrest.


As to everyone talking about the 100 limit to stay under radar of the DEA. Remember this if you have seeds around the DEA counts seeds too. One seed equals one plant. So, in other words if you have 90 plants and 11 awesome seeds tucked away under your bed that you are saving for a special season as far as the DEA feels you have 90 plants plus eleven seeds which equals 101 plants. Same as having 1 plant and 100 seeds, you know have 101 plants.

never heard of them counting seeds thats way fucked up.

[cowgirl1]

Has the DEA uncle given any info about what to expect in terms of federal directives?

I did hear a little bird talking, that would suggest they will be keeping tabs and I would not want to be a large scale growing opereations

[cowgirl1]

never heard of them counting seeds thats way fucked up.

That is also how they did Mark Emery. He never sent a gram, pound, ounce nothing to the USA. They called him one of the top drug traffickers in the world. They figured he sent x amount of seeds and figured one seed equals one plant. That is why he was facing 20 to life unless he plead.

Should not be to hard for simple people that are staying under 5 patients to fly low you are just going to have to throw away extra if you want to stay legal.

Have you looked at craigslist lately? Tons of people have adds on the selling caregiver to caregiver. Caregiver are not allowed to deal with each other anymore. Even if your friend down the street has a kick ass kush plant and you as a caregiver go and get a clone from him you are breaking the law. Caregiver can only deal with there 5 patients and caregiver can not be listed as a patient with someone else.

Also on craigslist you see adds of people selling left over 1/4 pounds. Once again this is illegal.

I think once everything is signed off and you have a few bored drug cops running around there will be lots of trouble.

The only thing this bill did was help the big money backed dispencaries. I am just wondering how many senator and house rep got big money donate to there elections for signing off on it