Boycott the Aurora Mall

[Justabloke]

I doubt it's illegal, but fully agree it's, at the least, not something to be supported. Like I'd said, I was just blown away by the idea he should get some kinda concession for being a card owner -- two very different issues.

Oh, and if you don't know it's ileagle then you need to study up on your Constitutional Rights both at the State and Federal Level!

Also, this isn't about "concession." I ask for no "concessions" being a patient. There are laws that I must follow as a patient. I paid my $90 briberey fee. I should be left alone. But again, this isn't about Patients or recreational users. Politically motivated clothing is covered by the First Amendment to the United States Constitution.

The AM is CLEARLY wrong and I hope Jake gets Millions for their fuck up! If you don't think it's against the law then ask any lawer whether or not politically oriented clothing is covered. I'm sure they will tell you yes. Part of the reason I know it is groups fighting dress codes at schools have used the same arguement.

[CovertCarpenter]

...BOYCOTT the mall... if they see their business drop, and if MANY people write them coherent letters as to WHY they're not shopping there anymore...

THAT'S a message that they can't ignore.

[throatstick]

I'm really sorry 99% percent of the mmj community disagrees with you HighPopalorum, maybe'd you have better luck on some other type of forum, but its obvious you're views are way off from the communities. Keep trying to piss people off on here, I hope it makes ya feel better or something. I know that's you're goal here as you've said it in previous posts. Love to point those out to you if you want to deny you're intentions here. Have a nice day.

i think a .gov forum would prob suit him better.ya know to hang with all his friends.

besides that tho i do understand the mal is private property.thats why i choose not to go there.to me malls are outdated anyways.go there to spend double/triple what you spend anywhere else on most items.the mall it's self is the rip off they charge 4 to 6k and thats for a small store front.and that was 10 years ago prices from what i recall.

sorry high pop i believe abit diffrent than most maybe even on here im sure.my thoughts are if you don't hurt anyone in a deliberate hurtful way then they should be able to do as they plz.

plus if you want to go the way of a vote and all people agree to adhere to it then thats fine too.BUT ONLY IF ALL FACTS ARE ON THE TABLE>.THE REASON AND ONLY REASON IT HAS NOT BEEN ACCEPTED BY THE MAJORITY OF THE PEOPLE IS BECAUSE OF OUR GOV AND BIG CORPS LYING TO DEFRAUD THE PEOPLE. THIS GOES BACK TO MY RULE I KEEP AND LIVE BY.THAT IS THE ONLY REASON PEOPLE HAVE NOT STARTED TO ACCEPT IT UNTIL NOW.THANKS TO THE INTERNET TRUE KNOWLEDGE HAS BEEN ABLE TO ETCH AWAY AT ALL THE FALSE HOODS THAT HAVE BEEN PERPETRATED IN THE MEDIA AND GOV.

[StoneyJake]

I'm not sure if I should be replying to this thread or the other one, but what the heck does the fact that this kid have a MMJ license have to do with anything else in that story at all?

It's a lousy situation, and I don't support the first contact (assuming it was entirely just cuz of the kid's t-shirt)...but even considering the horrible lack of details I'm working with, it kinda looks like the kid started acting like an obnoxious punk when approached, and that's always only going to escalate things...which is what happened. I'm not surprised.

What I am, tho, is offended by the line, "Apparently being a card caring patient makes no difference to the Aurora police." It shouldn't make any difference to the Aurora police in this matter. Can you imagine how egregious it would be if they allowed someone to wear that shirt simply on the ba pro-pot shirts for you. I'd be first in line to boycott the mall in that case.

Im not a kid. Im a 28 year old man... I did not act "like an obnoxious punk when approached". I acted like a grown man that is being told to take off my shirt in the middle of a mall... I realize you dont fully understand what happened. I tried to give a cut down version of the event on the other thread regarding this but I could fill up a entire page with a play by play of the entire event. I didnt think anyone would read that lol

I was shopping at the mall and was stopped shortly after making my first purchase. I complied with police but I did correct an officer as to the laws in colorado a couple of times

[StoneyJake]

i think a .gov forum would prob suit him better.ya know to hang with all his friends.

besides that tho i do understand the mal is private property.thats why i choose not to go there.to me malls are outdated anyways.go there to spend double/triple what you spend anywhere else on most items.the mall it's self is the rip off they charge 4 to 6k and thats for a small store front.and that was 10 years ago prices from what i recall.

Actually the mall is public property if it has a police station and hold community events in it. The colorado supreme court already ruled on this in the case of block vs Westminister mall.(thanks again telephone)
So the Aurora TOWN CENTER is a public place

[lampost]

The AM is CLEARLY wrong and I hope Jake gets Millions for their fuck up!

I'm all for punishing the Aurora Mall, but let's be realistic here. Do you really think he deserves millions? I hope not. Our legal system is fucked with people getting 1Mil+ for burning themselves with coffee! Let's stop taking advantage of the system man!
That's part of the reasons your medical bills are so high...

This one isn't about money, it's about principle. At the most he should be compensated to cover a lawyer to fight this injustice...

[vegetabongrips]

It is VERY illegal! They breached his First Amendment Rights, clearly.

This isn't about MMJ or pot itself, really. This is about the fact they tryed to keep him from his First Amendment rights. It just happens to be that he is a patient; cooincidence nothing more.

It's not unlike me telling you "you must shut up because you are wrong."

Yes, your wrong but I am, by no means, going to tell you to shut up!!! You have the RIGHT to express your opinion and I would be a hypocrite if I told you you many not practice your First Amendment RIGHT to Free Speach.

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You can tell me to shut up all you wanted. If you were a mod you could ban me from ever posting again....doesn't violate freedom of speech, and neither does this as both times it's a PRIVATE entity removing the ability to speak, not the government, which is what the first amendment applies to.

The ONLY reason why Westminster Mall was found to be in violation of the first in a similar case is because of the government presence at that mall. Without it, which Aurora mall is lacking, the mall is a private entity and can tell you to not wear whatever shirt, not hold up whatever sign, or not distribute whatever written material they please. And of course, they can also tell you to stfu.

Likewise, as a private citizen you are allowed to own and operate media, establish an official church for you and your family. As a private citizen you can tell the group of people hanging out on your lawn to get the hell off of it.

The government is forbid from all of these due to the first amendment. Private citizens and corporations, however, are NOT.

[vegetabongrips]

Actually the mall is public property if it has a police station and hold community events in it. The colorado supreme court already ruled on this in the case of block vs Westminister mall.(thanks again telephone)
So the Aurora TOWN CENTER is a public place

Those were NOT, NOT the only factors which made Westminster Mall determined to be a public entity. There were a SLEW of reasons, those two happen to be the ONLY two reasons in common.

To be completely honest, it's arguable either way. It is definitely not clear cut in either direction, but I'd side with "if it only has 2 out of the 10 reasons, it probably isn't going to meet the same standard." There have been malls across the nation which, including police departments, were found to be private entities. Granted, we're talking about a state supreme court case, but we're also talking about it in reference to a federal right.

[vegetabongrips]

Im not a kid. Im a 28 year old man... I did not act "like an obnoxious punk when approached". I acted like a grown man that is being told to take off my shirt in the middle of a mall... I realize you dont fully understand what happened. I tried to give a cut down version of the event on the other thread regarding this but I could fill up a entire page with a play by play of the entire event. I didnt think anyone would read that lol

I was shopping at the mall and was stopped shortly after making my first purchase. I complied with police but I did correct an officer as to the laws in colorado a couple of times

Tell your mom to stop telling people you get all loud and feisty usually when confronted

[throatstick]

Actually the mall is public property if it has a police station and hold community events in it. The colorado supreme court already ruled on this in the case of block vs Westminister mall.(thanks again telephone)
So the Aurora TOWN CENTER is a public place

i c i did not know that i know some are not tho.