Move Them, or Leave Them? Need opinions!

[greenthmb]

I am a newbie grower, and I am probably being way too attentive and critical to the process. But I have grown one plant in the past, which turned out to be a total dud. So I really wanna get it right this time!
I have my plants outdoors and in the ground. They are about 15 inches tall, and in vegetative state. I expected them to get approx 12 hours of light, 8 hours being direct sunlight. However, they are only getting 12 hours light, 6 hours being direct sunlight.. They are literally 3 feet short of the ideal spot... ughhh.

Basically my question is: would the risk of digging them up and moving them be worth the extra 2-3 hours of direct sunlight they would get in the new spot?

greenthmb Reviewed by greenthmb on 05-20-2010. Move Them, or Leave Them? Need opinions! I am a newbie grower, and I am probably being way too attentive and critical to the process. But I have grown one plant in the past, which turned out to be a total dud. So I really wanna get it right this time! I have my plants outdoors and in the ground. They are about 15 inches tall, and in vegetative state. I expected them to get approx 12 hours of light, 8 hours being direct sunlight. However, they are only getting 12 hours light, 6 hours being direct sunlight.. They are literally 3 feet Rating: 5

[dmcefc]

I am a newbie grower, and I am probably being way too attentive and critical to the process. But I have grown one plant in the past, which turned out to be a total dud. So I really wanna get it right this time!
I have my plants outdoors and in the ground. They are about 15 inches tall, and in vegetative state. I expected them to get approx 12 hours of light, 8 hours being direct sunlight. However, they are only getting 12 hours light, 6 hours being direct sunlight.. They are literally 3 feet short of the ideal spot... ughhh.

Basically my question is: would the risk of digging them up and moving them be worth the extra 2-3 hours of direct sunlight they would get in the new spot?

Good question, This isn't too much of a problem at the moment but will when flowering starts ,so I would move them now while they are still relatively small and you can get around the roots without doing too much damage.
If they will get an extra 2-3 hrs direct now if you move it ,that extra time will be invaluable in bloom.

Let's hear some more comments before you take out the spade.

Good Growin.

[LetsSeeYa]

I am a newbie grower, and I am probably being way too attentive and critical to the process. But I have grown one plant in the past, which turned out to be a total dud. So I really wanna get it right this time!

I was there last year with your same issue, so i understand. What you want to do is leave them right there and il tell ya why. You will get nice buds for sure, even if they had less direct sun light.

I have my plants outdoors and in the ground. They are about 15 inches tall, and in vegetative state. I expected them to get approx 12 hours of light, 8 hours being direct sunlight. However, they are only getting 12 hours light, 6 hours being direct sunlight.. They are literally 3 feet short of the ideal spot... ughhh.

Because its going to be your really first grow to count, ya never count the first fuck up in my book. They will grow and bud nice. But, they just will not be really tall. But you will harvest buds for sure and because of this, just grow them out where they are. The reason for this is, one, if you move them, it will stress the hell out of them and could hermy or give males only. And two, its your first grow man. Just watch them grow. Sit with them. Get high with em. This will teach you so much and if you move them an fuck em up, ya gotta wait till next year. Mine were only knee high, but buds were every place with an ok yield. Most important i got buds and so will you. If you can try and knock some of the shit thats blocking the sun if ya can, if not just grow em. If ya look in my sig and read my '09 outside grow you will see how mine were shaded. Well, i learned from it and knocked down some shit and this year im thinking better grow. Its all about learning man, each grow. Plus its not to late to plant more.

Basically my question is: would the risk of digging them up and moving them be worth the extra 2-3 hours of direct sunlight they would get in the new spot?

No, because you will get a harvest or il freaking send ya a sak. No shit man, its better to get buds that will be good and learn, by watching them. Tell no one, or they will get ripped. If ya got issues il help ya the whole year through. I have my grow log here, so you could post there if ya want, or just keep this going. One year my plant got maybe 3 hours of direct light, but still got an oz from it, so just go with it man, trust me it will be better then digging them up.

One question, How long have they been in the ground? And post everything in one thread man, you will get more help then jumping around with different questions, just put them all here.

:rasta:

[greenthmb]

Awesome, thank you so much for the replies and willingness to help.

I have six plants total. I purchased two clones from a dispensary 1 week ago. One is good ol' fashioned skunk, and the other is sweet hawaiian skunk. Another one of them (which is also a clone, but was a gift so not sure what strain) was already flowering when I got it, so I am hoping it will go back into vegetative state. And finally, I threw some seeds from some decent smoke in the ground, and I got 3 healthy plants. The clones have been in the ground for about 1 week and are about 15 inches tall, and the ones started from seeds are about 2 weeks old and are about 8-9 inches tall.

They all get about 6-7 hours direct sunlight, but everything I read says that the more sun, the better. Also, I planted them in my veggie garden in order to camo them some what, and I planted them at the back of the garden, which is right next to a fence... Once I started thinking about it, someone could just knock the fence boards out and steal my whole crop. I am just kicking myself in the ass for planting them where I did. I was just too anxious to get them into the ground.

I will leave them where they're at for now. I know that moving them could wipe them all out... I am just worried about thieves now..

I am currently giving them the Fox Farm nutes, and water only when dry. I have only given the nutes once, with some mild nute burn the next day.. I am going to decrease the concentration to about 1/4 and gradually increase to full strength.

Should I test the pH of the soil?

What about trimming/topping them?

The more I read on how to properly grow marijuana, the more complex it gets.. Why is it called "weed" if it's such a touchy plant to grow?! Shit, now I know why I pay so much for it. But soo worth it. They are such beautiful plants, and I'd like to keep mine that way!

I will post some pics tomorrow, too late tonight. I will continue updating as well. Nice to have some experts to guide me along the way! Happy growing!!!!

[sarah louise]

Don't fret, 6 hours per day of full sun is quite sufficient.

[LetsSeeYa]

Awesome, thank you so much for the replies and willingness to help.


They all get about 6-7 hours direct sunlight, but everything I read says that the more sun, the better. Also, I planted them in my veggie garden in order to camo them some what, and I planted them at the back of the garden, which is right next to a fence... Once I started thinking about it, someone could just knock the fence boards out and steal my whole crop. I am just kicking myself in the ass for planting them where I did. I was just too anxious to get them into the ground.

Growing outside ya got that risk of a scum bag trying to rip ya off. But they should grow short and bush like. So, its not like your going for ten footer and if they do get that big, you can tie them down pretty easy. Your going to have a good harvest.

Has anyone ever knocked down the fence boards before? I wouldn't worry about it. And 6-7 hours is just about what mine got last year. They didn't get tall, but packed full of buds This year i adjusted for the problem, like you will next year, in less ya grow indoors?

Should I test the pH of the soil?

No man, i think your cool:thumbsup:

What about trimming/topping them?

Top one or fim one, just as a practice type thing. But do not remove any leaves. People who trim lower leaves grow inside andthey do this because the light inside isnt the sun, so will not penatraite as well as outside. So,no trimming.

The more I read on how to properly grow marijuana, the more complex it gets.. Why is it called "weed" if it's such a touchy plant to grow?! Shit, now I know why I pay so much for it. But soo worth it. They are such beautiful plants, and I'd like to keep mine that way!

Don't let what you read over complicate things for you. There are plenty of methods, but getting stated is all about watching a plant grow through each stage. You will learn from watching and reading. You dont need to try all methods when your just starting out. Im not saying to maybe try topping one or fim, but just getting them grown and harvested, next grow you step up your game. Then try different methods or techniques after you have grown a crop that may interest you.

They are so easy to grow, like a weed. Its just that you put time into it and luv, so i understand by reading, it could freak you out. But these issues your reading is here for people to learn from, its not here to worry you. So just ignore that crap, till an issue comes up and bang, you can recall something you read or saw here, which could fix a problem. Dont worry so much man, cuz it can drive ya nuts. And if you do have a problem, we are here to help. You put your reading in, which is something some people dont, so your a step ahead man. Just try not to worry, i know its not easy as i too can freak once an awhile too.

I will post some pics tomorrow, too late tonight. I will continue updating as well. Nice to have some experts to guide me along the way! Happy growing!!!!

Luv to see your crop:thumbsup:And try an post in the same thread, so you will get more people popping in to help with any questions.

See Ya man:rasta:

[CovertCarpenter]

...better to keep 'em where they are, instead of stressing 'em out by moving them unnecessarily. The camo-@-back-of-garden thing should be of some use, and having 'em next to the fence might even shield 'em from harsh weather, should M.Nature come knockin'... And yes, the amount of sunshine they're getting should be fine...

I might suggest investing in a PH (cheapie!) test kit, just so you can PH your nute/water for 'em, though... other than that, and perhaps some inexpensive (proper!) nutrients, just let 'em run! They are weeds, after all, and remarkably resilient (though you shouldn't stress 'em out for fun!)

TAKE some PIX! We'd love to see the lil' darlin's!

[LetsSeeYa]

I disagree on the Ph pen, your growing outside with this being your first good grow. Don't over think shit. If you were indoor i might say yeah, but lets get through this outdoor first:thumbsup:

Just start nutes at 1/4, then build up on them. And make sure you water in between adding nutes. You dont want any build up of them in the ground and in less your the weather dude, cuz ya never know if its going to rain, which will wash some nutes into the ground.

Keep er grreen bro:hippy:

:rasta:

[greenthmb]

OK, so here's an update... They kinda look like sh*t. No new growth, the very tips of the leaves are burnt, and the bottom leaves are turning yellow. The weather here in Northern Cali has been lame, which may be contributing to the problem. It's been cloudy with small spurts of sunshine. I think it may even rain. :/

Is it over or under fertilization!?!? If the problem is over fertilization (they were fert. the first time on 5/18), then will the rain help to dilute it? Should I continue fertilizing on a weekly basis, or back off for a couple weeks? Ughh, all of the problem charts and troubleshooting tools I find show similar symptoms for over/under-fert., which is making it difficult for me to know what to do from here...

Could it just be that the clones are suffering a bit from the environment change?

Is there anything I can do for them?

I use cannabis medicinally for my anxiety/ocd.. never thought that growing it could contribute to my ailments! LOL. Someone please give me your thoughts, I am going crazy on what to do for these gals.. Leave them alone? Should I post new pics with the symptoms?

[greenthmb]

Oh yeah, and for the clone that flowered early... do I leave the little buds on there? Or take them off? They are not fully developed buds, just a sneak peak at what they will become. :thumbsup: