FIRST MMJ PATIENT TRIED UNDER HOLDERS NEW POLICY

[pepurr]

is that right? The numbers are slightly bigger than before. I know of NORML and American for Safe Access, but they just barelly scratch the surface, and to suggest what I should with my time is up to ME...as if that's my only options! I support my nationally and local advocates for legallity, but honestly not much new has came forth from most of they're existance. I mean- we hear of those being just targets for federal drug enforcement agencies and it's not a way to live, some have even lost they're lives due to that plus some have serious deceases that they really just need to be medicated. Where is all this new technology? Where are the breakthroughs? I read and read to find that we truly don't have much sway!! In California most that smoke some just support legality but it's just a trend that we follow cuz we smoke. James Madison was truly againts independent state sovereignty due to the contradiction between federal law and state laws, are we really together when we are seperated by different state laws that federals just over ride and create technicalities to punish those and set an example, like mentioned above. Im not trying to argue but only opening the forum for dialogue with my fellow cannabis users. But, yeah let's just stick to those two options as to say they are setting the standard, I mean we do that with the GOP and the DEMs and forget we have independants. It truly isn't hard to see the fine lines, we just don't put them together- any positive I sight?

I agree! What you do with your free time is your business. Did you see the word "Maybe" in my post. Here I will quote myself:

Maybe your energy would be better spent supporting one of these who already exist.

Geepers! Don't get so defensive when someone gives you a suggestion. We all know that suggestions are not orders.

That's ok though. Lets start a whole bunch of cannabis advocacy groups (CAG). And lets have them all have different agendas too. Seems to me having an over load of CAG's would guarantee infighting.

Personally, I have said for years that the idea of cannabis legalization goes way beyond just getting high. It is about liberty, freedom and self determination.

[420session]

I agree! What you do with your free time is your business. Did you see the word "Maybe" in my post. Here I will quote myself:



Geepers! Don't get so defensive when someone gives you a suggestion. We all know that suggestions are not orders.

That's ok though. Lets start a whole bunch of cannabis advocacy groups (CAG). And lets have them all have different agendas too. Seems to me having an over load of CAG's would guarantee infighting.

Personally, I have said for years that the idea of cannabis legalization goes way beyond just getting high. It is about liberty, freedom and self determination.

NO, I am not bothered with your suggestion on what I should do with my time, eitherway useless to what I was trying to say or convey, but i guess ill just smoke to that and leave it like it is. Rif Raf doesnt lead anywhere...
I know its hard to understand when people are doing something as a benefit to the community through positive insight and facts, Which Ive done in my hood. What should be considered though is the obvious that not enough is done and if politicians and unions feel they have done enough then that is that, however, they cause a rucus the next contract to always re-negotiate and settle- how much are they really worth? I promote thought and have helped out many in my community and will continue with the understanding of our rights and constitution, honestly all some people need is motivation and insight. I have a plan, some yeska, some followers, some famous, some money and working on a system to get homes off the grid. That works for me and maybe reading about people getting caught up with our laws contradiction BS and not enough people standing up for them besides family members is enough for some of you, then whats it to you? Although for me its something vital. But, I also do got more time on my hands than others to help.

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[boaz]

... James Madison was truly againts independent state sovereignty due to the contradiction between federal law and state laws, are we really together when we are seperated by different state laws that federals just over ride and create technicalities to punish those and set an example, like mentioned above. Im not trying to argue but only opening the forum for dialogue with my fellow cannabis users. ...

interesting thoughts. My thinking is that Prop 215 really did push this idea of States' rights into the national conscience over the last 14 years. For better or worse? I think better in general, but I do see your point, why should truly ill individuals have to rely on clever politics and the direction of our national zeitgeist just to be able to use their medicine of choice in peace? :wtf: It really is crazy when you think about it.