Photo sensitive burn.

[canniwhatsis]

I"m stumped,

Here's my thread, everything was good till last friday.

http://boards.cannabis.com/grow-log/...irst-grow.html






What is your experience level? (first timer, novice, experienced...)= No0b

Your Equipment:
.1) Type and wattage of lights. (MH, HPS, CFL's, tube fluorescents, LED's) = 2 50 watt incandescent "reflector" style bulbs and one 18" T8 fluorescent plant/aquarium, and the 60 watt soft white that is in the ceiling fixture.
.2) Distance from tops?= 18" on the tube, about 36" on the reflector bulbs, about 5 foot to the ceiling light.
.3) Reflector type? (cool tube set-up, bat wing, enclosed reflector, bare bulb...) =bare bulbs and mylar on walls
.4) Is there a consistent fresh air supply?= no, other than leaks in the current "tent" (4.5x6.5 room under construction, one wall is black plastic tarp, the other 3 are drywall, there is an actual locking door to enter.)
.5) Do you have an exhaust fan and a circulation fan?= Exhaust yes, but cant run it and keep temps above low 60's and humidity's above 30% Circulation, not really, but the humidifier is blowing over her,... it's something at least.
.6) What are the bulb wattages, kelvin ratings, and schedule?= Dont know kelvens, watts are 15 on the T8, 50 each on the reflector bulbs, and 60 on the ceiling bulb. stepped up to a 24-0 light schedule for healing her,... but am debating putting her back to 18-6 given the photo sensitivity of the burning. :wtf:

Your medium:
.7) Specific brand and type of soil, (coco, peat based soilless...) and anything you've added to it. (vermiculite, perlite, worm castings...)= Happy frog nothing added but water.
.8) Size of container.= 3 gallon.
.9) Did you use peat pucks (or similar) to root clones or germinate seedlings?= N/A

Your nutrients and water:
10) Source of water? (tap, bottled or filtered) What's it's ph before adjusting?= Tap, and I don't know.
11) Method of checking water ph. (ph pen, test strips, aquarium test kit...)= none
12) Method of adjusting water ph. (phosphoric acid, white vinegar, hydrated lime, PH Up...)= none
13) Specific brand and N-P-K ratio for each bottle. List dosages (quantity per gallon) and current feeding schedule. = none
14) How often are you watering between feedings, and how much per watering?= not feeding
15) Any additives or tea's? (Superthrive, CalMag, molasses, Mother's Earth...)= none
16) Are your ph levels stable, or do they fluctuate?= dont know.
17) What is your ingoing water's ph? ...your runoff ph? = don't know
18) Do you foliar feed? If so, with what, how often, and at what time do you spray?= Feed no, but have been watering the leaves since i had to prune her back so much to stem off the die back,.... (see thread) as often as I can for frequency,... it seems to be helping keep the 1/2 dead leaves from drying out totally, and the new growth hasn't been burning until tonight.

Your growroom:
19) Indoors or outdoors?= Indoor
20) What size of closet, room or hut?= 4.5x6.5x7.5
21) What are the temps and humidity levels while lights are on? ...With lights off?=75-77*f and 44-60% (the 44% reading was during a time that the outside door was open,... mostly it's between 50-55%) currently on 24-0
22) Have you seen signs of insects in the growroom?= signs yes, maybe,... (see thread) I'm exposed to mites almost every day at work, from several sources, not to mention my own household garden.

Your strain:
23) What strain are you growing? (Indica dominate or Sativa dom?)= Grand Daddy Purple, Indica
24) From seeds or clones?= Clone
25) Is this an autoflower strain?=no
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Please check the grow thread for more details, or ask here, My little girl will probably make it, but it's killing me to see her like this!

I want to see her healthy and happy again, please help!!!!!

Pics;

1- Friday night
2- Saturday morning
3/4 a couple pics from tonight.

canniwhatsis Reviewed by canniwhatsis on 05-17-2010. Photo sensitive burn. I"m stumped, Here's my thread, everything was good till last friday. :( http://boards.cannabis.com/grow-log/183754-first-grow.html Rating: 5

[canniwhatsis]

I've posted this thread here because my plant had problems that I thought might have been resolved, but re-manifested tonight after adding reflective to the booth thus increasing the intensity of the lights.... then the burn returned.


please advise!

[Rusty Trichome]

For starters, why would you ask for help, and have us do all the work thread-hopping? These are your plants, perhaps you should put-out the effort and explain here.
My comments are strictly from the info you provided here.

.1) Type and wattage of lights. (MH, HPS, CFL's, tube fluorescents, LED's) = 2 50 watt incandescent "reflector" style bulbs and one 18" T8 fluorescent plant/aquarium, and the 60 watt soft white that is in the ceiling fixture.
.2) Distance from tops?= 18" on the tube, about 36" on the reflector bulbs, about 5 foot to the ceiling light.
.3) Reflector type? (cool tube set-up, bat wing, enclosed reflector, bare bulb...) =bare bulbs and mylar on walls

Inadequate light. Incandescents are no good for growing, nor are spot growlights. The throw out more heat than usable lumens. Fluoro tubes need to be within 2-4 inches to be effective. Ceiling light...?

.4) Is there a consistent fresh air supply?= no, other than leaks in the current "tent" (4.5x6.5 room under construction, one wall is black plastic tarp, the other 3 are drywall, there is an actual locking door to enter.)
.5) Do you have an exhaust fan and a circulation fan?= Exhaust yes, but cant run it and keep temps above low 60's and humidity's above 30% Circulation, not really, but the humidifier is blowing over her,... it's something at least.

There are minimum requirements to keeping cannabis happy and healthy. Fresh air supply (and the CO2 it contains) is a necessary component. Stagnant air chokes-off normal gas-air exchange.

10) Source of water? (tap, bottled or filtered) What's it's ph before adjusting?= Tap, and I don't know.
11) Method of checking water ph. (ph pen, test strips, aquarium test kit...)= none

Ingoing water ph is ultra important. Acceptable range for peat-based mediums is between 6.3 and 6.8ish. There are already ph buffers in the soil, but you still need to keep the water within range. A freshwater aquarium ph test kit runs around $7.00, but if on city water, you might be able to find out online. (Google)

14) How often are you watering between feedings, and how much per watering?= not feeding
15) Any additives or tea's? (Superthrive, CalMag, molasses, Mother's Earth...)= none

When do plan on feeding 'em?

Can you keep 'em outside till you correct these issues?

The rest really doesn't matter. You have fatal flaws that need immediate addressing. If you seriously want to grow cannabis, you must have proper lighting or keep 'em outdoors. You must properly feed 'em, or they die. You should read your ass off and follow a couple of growlogs and see if you can gain the basics. When not following growlogs, you should read the FAQ's section till you understand what they are talking about. Read till you can't think any more and your eyes are bleeding. It's a learning process, and nobody is going to do it for you...might as well start learnin.

Quick Tips: Ask questions if you need something explained. Also, asking here before any purchases is likely a good idea. Tiz real easy to buy unnecessary crap some salesman say's you need. When planning your next grow, keep in mind that the flowering process is a tad different than the growth stage. Different nutrients, different lighting needs, different additives...Try to understand what you are getting into before you get into it. Ruins the surprise, but it keeps the plants happy knowing you are edumicating yourself on their behalf. :thumbsup:

[canniwhatsis]

For starters, why would you ask for help, and have us do all the work thread-hopping?:

I filled out the form with all the information asked for in the form,... for details check the thread or ask for them here!


As far as the setup that I listed in the "Trouble shooting form" that I filled out,... this is the current setup she's under, and your answer of,

Inadequate light. Incandescents are no good for growing, nor are spot growlights. The throw out more heat than usable lumens. Fluoro tubes need to be within 2-4 inches to be effective. Ceiling light...?

tells me that you didn't read the post, or thread that I'm referring to.... Everything you said is correct,.. and I actually have been following it,.... save for the last few day's ( SEE MOTHER F'N THREAD! )

As far as I can tell I haven't fucked up,.... (Other than not tracking PH,... show me a thread where this happens due to a PH imbalance? :wtf: ).....


I know I F'd up somewhere, so please,... someone with the sack to read another thread tell me where!!!!

[canniwhatsis]

someone with the sack to read another thread tell me where!!!!

Rusty; I respect your input, but the details are all in my thread,... Should I quote my own thread into this one to sate you? :wtf:

I will if it makes you happy,..


what questions haven't been answered on the Q/A that I've already filled out?



I Know this is a bit of an Asshole post but my plant is dying before my eyes, and your not helping.

[demoreal]

I just spent 10 min reading about your plants and all I can come up with Rusty already said.
peace

[Weezard]

Second that!

Rusty's not always a sweetheart, but his words have iron.
He is usually spot-on with grow advice.

Aloha,
Weezard

P. S.:
If a plant wilts with more light, (not heat, but light), look to the roots.
More light = more transpiration.
Neemed roots no can, so plant wilts.

[Rusty Trichome]

Rusty; I respect your input, but the details are all in my thread,... Should I quote my own thread into this one to sate you? :wtf:
I will if it makes you happy,..
what questions haven't been answered on the Q/A that I've already filled out?
I Know this is a bit of an Asshole post but my plant is dying before my eyes, and your not helping.

Respect...? :wtf: You've shown no respect.
I'm not going to learn for you, and I'm not going to hop all over the fuckin place chasing your info. Don't like it, tough shit. Without proper care, nutrients, lights, proper ph, etc...your plants are doomed. If another thread has further insight, it's your bad for not providing that info. Instead of this little spat over what you think you deserve, we could have been helping you to figure-out a way around the issues. But no. You chose the low road, and unfortunatelly, your laziness and selfishness has a direct effect on your plants.

Is there a reason you asked for help, yet sat back expecting us to gather all your details to save your ass? Is there a reason you were too lazy to help your own cause? Is there a reason you feel we owe you anything?

You can bitch and moan. You can blame and justify. You can lash-out and throw a fit. But your plants are still doomed without proper gardening techniques and a minimum standard as far as equipment and supplies. And did you know that as a newbie, your negative rep affected my reputation score by 1 point...? (out of thousands) It does add color to my boring green indicator lights though. I wonder how many of those newbie rep points you'd have left were I to return the favor...?

Go off and pout for a while, then do as instructed in the answers provided. It's a start, and you've a long way to go.

[Gilbert]

Please help! My plants all look great and I cant figure out why! Its driving me nuts. Gil

[Rusty Trichome]

Please help! My plants all look great and I cant figure out why! Its driving me nuts. Gil

Going to need more info. Never mind...I'll go look for it. :jointsmile: