Dispensaries already lowballing growers

[copobo]

prices will be going way up at the dispensaries, you wait and see!

and THAT is when the rest of the card holders will find out what's happened.

I am officially under my state limit (patients and plants) with the new regs. This shit will play out, but for now, I suggest everyone play it close and keep it safe.

[Colodonmed]

prices will be going way up at the dispensaries, you wait and see!

and THAT is when the rest of the card holders will find out what's happened.

I am officially under my state limit (patients and plants) with the new regs. This shit will play out, but for now, I suggest everyone play it close and keep it safe.

I hear that!

[TheReleafCenter]

I think prices are going to fall, and fast. There are a lot of places that will need to close out inventory they can't account for, so that'll go cheap. Then you have the fact that dispensaries are going to be growing however many plants they want, so there's going to be a huge influx of MMJ.

[SmokeyBandit]

prices will be going way up at the dispensaries, you wait and see!

and THAT is when the rest of the card holders will find out what's happened.

I am officially under my state limit (patients and plants) with the new regs. This shit will play out, but for now, I suggest everyone play it close and keep it safe.

Im not jacking up my prices or stopping freebies to my patients I have one more spot to fill and thats it.The one thing thats gonna suck is not having enough plant counts to still give away large amounts to people that need it but cant afford it for me thats what its about.

[puntacometa]

Guess I need to kiss your ass, I disagree...
250/oz might be ok for some people and for some strains but for sativas that seem to take like 6 months or more to finish (accounting for the cure time too) - 250 isn't even going to come close to covering my incurred cost & overhead!

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[cowgirl1]

Sorry to be the one to tell ya, but the price of medicine is dropping and will continue to drop. The more legal it becomes the lower the price becomes. Collectives alone do not set the price of marijuana. Collectives, Growers, Patients & the government set the price. You can complain all you want about businessman type collectives but growers are also trying to make a buck for themselves. If you want good quality low cost medicine, grow it yourself. Growers, you want a better price for your hard work, open up your own collective. :rasta:

I agree when marijuana become more legal the price will drop. However, if you really think about it is becoming less legal. This new bill they claim will shut down 80% of the dispensaries, it will limit caregiver to 5 patients etc. To me that is not making it more legal it is making it more illegal in a round about way.

What will happen is they will shut down all the mom and pop places, then the big money backed dispensaries "you know the ones that put money into Romers elections pocket under the table" will take over like wal-mart did then all the smaller stores that are left and caregivers that are left will be pushed out.

You must be thinking, well they cannot push me out....Well as my grandfather use to say.....money talks and bullshit walks.

Once they take over the vast majority of it, then grease a few more hands some time down the road, they will pass another bill, it will say something like. If you are a grower/caregiver you have to apply for zone, have to pass fire safety inspections, health dept inspections $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

Or you have to have some type of medical training "something simple" maybe a year or two course to be able to give out medication. Because if you really think about it, they are calling marijuana a medicine and we all know to get medicine that is prescribed by a DR you have to be a college grad with about 10 years of college under you belt.

So, yes with the right laws they could put all of us out of business with a stroke of a pen and never change the Constitution

[throatstick]

Sorry to be the one to tell ya, but the price of medicine is dropping and will continue to drop. The more legal it becomes the lower the price becomes. Collectives alone do not set the price of marijuana. Collectives, Growers, Patients & the government set the price. You can complain all you want about businessman type collectives but growers are also trying to make a buck for themselves. If you want good quality low cost medicine, grow it yourself. Growers, you want a better price for your hard work, open up your own collective. :rasta:

how much you think it will drop too?

[puntacometa]

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I just put 'em in dirt, re-use the dirt (this is a secret to high quality and yields out of dirt),

You reuse your dirt? My used dirt has plenty of salt residues. How do you amend it? I'm very curious about this.

feed them guanos, worm castings and not so much on the expensive liquid nutes. I'm figuring around $10 / oz, NOT INCLUDING LABOR. Labor is a big part of it, and is worth far more than co2, electricity, and nutes combined.

Labor is a large expense, especially if you have a small system. Mine is tiny, just 3 plants, so labor for me comes out to maybe $75-$100 / oz if I want to be reasonably compensated. So, lets just call it $100/oz for parts and labor. Going by general rules of business, I need to double the cost of production, so I need at least $200 / oz wholesale.

Try wrangling 60+ plants in a 400 sq ft. greenhouse/vegging room setup with 20 x 1000W HID's in the middle of a winter with snowdifts 10' high around your grow structure. Free File Hosting Made Simple - MediaFire

$200 / oz wholesale is just my number, and I've been gardening since '94. I don't need to spend very much time or money relative to most growers with less experience and/or more complicated systems. So, those who think this is easy money need to think again. It's not as lucrative as some might think,

Utility bills for my indoor grow were running around $1300.00 per month. Add labor (a full time situation with 60+ plants) and fertilizers to this and you've got a pretty hefty overhead.

and not everyone is capable of coming up with product worth selling for top dollar. This makes top end ganja more like fine wine, and we should expect to be paid more for it, but we do not. Certainly not in proportion to it's quality. I think there needs to be even more differential in price, I see a lot of lower quality stuff that should be a lot cheaper in dispensaries

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[khyberkitsune]

"You reuse your dirt? My used dirt has plenty of salt residues. How do you amend it? I'm very curious about this."

Get a cheap soil testing kit that can tell you levels of NPK in your soil, and adjust from there. Cannabis is quite beneficial for most any soil it grows in. You can always flush out the salts from the soil as well before re-amending with whatever yhou choose.

[Dorje113]

"You reuse your dirt? My used dirt has plenty of salt residues. How do you amend it? I'm very curious about this."

Get a cheap soil testing kit that can tell you levels of NPK in your soil, and adjust from there. Cannabis is quite beneficial for most any soil it grows in. You can always flush out the salts from the soil as well before re-amending with whatever yhou choose.

Yes, it's all about keeping the soil balanced and happy. Most people do not, and by the end of the grow it's too far out of balance and they just chuck it and buy more. If you do it right, it never needs to be flushed either.

When you learn to take care of the dirt, all these ($$$) fungus and bacterial additives become pretty funny... not only do people spend cash on new dirt, which isn't nearly as good as old dirt, but they are throwing out all these beneficial microbes in the old dirt too, only to pay lots of $$$ on these additives to re-introduce them. In my experience, the first run on new dirt isn't as good as subsequent runs, whether you use these ammendments or not.

There is also no reason to spend lots of $$$ on "high end" nutes, although I do use liquid ferts in the water at every watering. In general, they are only used at fairly low levels to fine-tune things.

Feel free to pm me for more info....