Dispensaries already lowballing growers

[throatstick]

NOBODY should be allowed to inspect your personal grow!

A 1000W only pulls 9.8 Amps (120V)!! That's less than my power-saw (12.8 Amps) and about the same as a clothes washer!

Personal grow are NOT a fire risk, even in an old house. As long as one does their research it's OK. The problem is we have idiots who don't. And we already know we can't go around protecting every idiot from themselves or we'd have laws regarding everything!

yup the odd thing is you see these same people bitching about veggie growers that have been setting up hydro grows for along time now. now all of the sudden it's a big deal....i guess the "centers" won't be happy until all patients are forced to sign them as caregiver......

another thing thats funny is these same "center" owners/mgrs used to have to by from the dealer on the street way back when.never was a problem to them then....i call bs when i see it and the bullshit thats popping up on these boards is just that bs.the only 1 i have seen that seems to be true blue and what they really stand for and who they say they are is greatful meds.

[throatstick]

It's true, and we already have laws defining what level of business is ok to run out of one's home. In most places, if the home is primarily being used as a residence and doesn't disturb the neighbors you'll be fine. I'm sure they'll define a square footage or plant count or both soon enough though.

I think there's definitely a problem with people blowing up a house and not even living there, but a family living in a house with 12 plants flowering in the basement shouldn't be an issue.

As far as people doing electric mods to their own house, it's not illegal, but it has to be done right or your insurance might not pay if you caused a fire. You could be sued if its a rental, I'd guess.

yup and thats where the saying"knowledge is power" comes in.you should never jump into something if you have'nt done your research first.for those that don't that is their fault u or i should'nt have to suffer and be exposed for the ones that are dumb in the world...

[relaxalot]

It will be interesting to see how this all shakes out. I tend to think that the shops that do survive this mess will have trouble keeping up with demand. I suspect the ones that manage to stay afloat will produce less strain variety, and quality will suffer from the warehouse scale conditions. The stragglers will be out-competed and shut down by the big boys.

I also predict that A LOT of the extra meds from smaller-scale growers will end up back on the underground... I think it will be affordable, readily available to all, handcrafted, and varietal. I think that the amount available underground will, somehow, drive the development of some new mechanism by which caregivers get their overage into the hands of patients. Technically illegal, but effective. If patients want variety and quality, the underground may end up being a patient's most solid option. I see it generally decreasing patient census at dispensaries.

If this happens, I will feel bad for the local Colorado shop owners, while I will have no sympathy for the big box boys when their support of hb1284 eventually comes back to bite them on their collective asses.

It's just a speculative theory, but seems highly plausible to me.:rasta:

[cannamanibus]

I think you can look at my post when i joined and wanted to move to CO. asap and what-not. Also saying how that prices are going to drop b/c no matter what quality, some people aren't as greedy. I mean it sells illegally around the rest of this country for damn near the same price. It should sell for alot less, b/c i would be happy making $160 an o and runnin a grow, Still would be around 75% return. Compared to the old 300%.

[Dorje113]

I think you can look at my post when i joined and wanted to move to CO. asap and what-not. Also saying how that prices are going to drop b/c no matter what quality, some people aren't as greedy. I mean it sells illegally around the rest of this country for damn near the same price. It should sell for alot less, b/c i would be happy making $160 an o and runnin a grow, Still would be around 75% return. Compared to the old 300%.

True, but most products retail for 4-6x the cost of manufacture. I agree MMJ does not need to be one of them, especially if there is no middle-man. Dispensaries provide a nice, convenient service, but are charging a lot. I think the new bill, which allows dispensaries to grow as much as they want, may bring prices down. There are a lot of BIG grow ops going up right now as a result of the bill, way more than the dispensaries can sell collectively, I'd bet. I'd also bet a lot of disp. grown weed will hit the black market too.

[Adamkadmon]

True, but most products retail for 4-6x the cost of manufacture. I agree MMJ does not need to be one of them, especially if there is no middle-man. Dispensaries provide a nice, convenient service, but are charging a lot. I think the new bill, which allows dispensaries to grow as much as they want, may bring prices down. There are a lot of BIG grow ops going up right now as a result of the bill, way more than the dispensaries can sell collectively, I'd bet. I'd also bet a lot of disp. grown weed will hit the black market too.

So I'm guessing dispensaries won't care about caregiver rights once this goes into affect? If they can grow as much as they want why would they need caregiver rights?

[Dorje113]

So I'm guessing dispensaries won't care about caregiver rights once this goes into affect? If they can grow as much as they want why would they need caregiver rights?

I believe they still do, but it's not a problem to get as many patients as needed to grow as much as they want.

[TheReleafCenter]

So I'm guessing dispensaries won't care about caregiver rights once this goes into affect? If they can grow as much as they want why would they need caregiver rights?

You still have to be designated as a "primary center" in the bill, with your grows tied to that patient count. The question is how they will transfer primary caregivers to primary centers.

[Adamkadmon]

You still have to be designated as a "primary center" in the bill, with your grows tied to that patient count. The question is how they will transfer primary caregivers to primary centers.

Ok, I get it now...their is no upper limit on patients for centers, thus they can grow as much as they want..how is that different than before? So, is there no provision for automatic rollover from primary caregiver to primary center? Also, are patients forced to choose a "center" and visit only them or will it play out the same as before?

[TheReleafCenter]

Ok, I get it now...their is no upper limit on patients for centers, thus they can grow as much as they want..how is that different than before? So, is there no provision for automatic rollover from primary caregiver to primary center? Also, are patients forced to choose a "center" and visit only them or will it play out the same as before?

Is isn't much different on the dispensary side. There isn't a rollover provision yet, the Department of Revenue will have to tackle that. If you want to visit centers then you need to name a primary one, however, you can visit any center just like you can now.