Dispensaries already lowballing growers

[Adamkadmon]

Are you serious turn people into the DEA...You do know what that makes you? I mean those growers at those big warehouses have familys, why would you want to destroy anyone else's life..Those people will go to prison if/ when raids occur. Please calm down before you do anything this utterly stupid..

Oh yeah and for what it's worth, this bill puts me out of a job, and says that not of good moral character to be a caregiver( marijuana felony)..So I have every reason to be upset about it's passing.. Why doesn't everyone just grow their own( those that can) and you could really put a hurt on their pockets.. Give herb away for free, this plant responds to the energy it's given and if it's grown with $$ signs in mind, I think that the plants quality will suffer as a result..NOBODY wants mass produced commercial grade garbage, the people who can provide quality medicine @ a fair price will be all right ..:jointsmile:

I'm really looking forward to this bill being shutdown by the courts Funk. You deserve to be able to continue what you are doing. I think we can find a way to keep the fingers funky. I wish I could grow my own, just don't have the room. :jointsmile:

[Klonzinc]

Guess I need to kiss your ass, I disagree...
250/oz might be ok for some people and for some strains but for sativas that seem to take like 6 months or more to finish (accounting for the cure time too) - 250 isn't even going to come close to covering my incurred cost & overhead!

Exactly, did not think I needed to point out every small detail, just as good but hermied weed around 200.00 would be fair, I will make sure I include the complete breakdown of cost for each strain, my bad...............ROFLMA:rastasmoke:

[throatstick]

ALL GROWERS PLEASE;

It is time we tell them to f off, this is insane, 250.00 is a fair price for quality aA bud, anyone disagreeing with that can kiss my ass, most are now only paying 200, and that is a joke as they sell it for way more, and do not give me the overhead bullshit, we all have it and we all work hard, at a 140 oz I can not even grow.

GIVE IT BACK TO THE PEOPLE AND THE MOM AND POP SHOPS, SCREW THE BIG DISP. ROLE MODEL

agreed 110% i offer it to them for 250 to 275 per bottom line.if one offers below that i laugh at em.sounds like whoever told you that shady does'nt plan to stay around and is trying to low ball everywhere they can to get as much money as possible b4 they skip town....

[throatstick]

Guess I need to kiss your ass, I disagree...
250/oz might be ok for some people and for some strains but for sativas that seem to take like 6 months or more to finish (accounting for the cure time too) - 250 isn't even going to come close to covering my incurred cost & overhead!

this is true also i stick to mostly heavy inddy's or hybrid with inddy doms.but i do know what ya mean with the pure to heavy sats.

[throatstick]

So true. I've seen other say it but I think there is a curve of quantity grown vs. quality of herb. And at a certain point... when you get above a certain number of plants/size of operation the quality takes a hit. I think when you're growing a smaller number of plants you can really give the individual attention to each plant and get a better result.
I think this is misunderstood a lot. I even saw a dispensary post on here something about their excitement for the warehouse grows and the big money's ability to use new technology to create "high-tech" grows...:wtf: Herb has been growing for 1000s of years. High-tech?

i'd be happy with 32 plants total really.the 5 patient deal i don't mind all that much cause im happy with 30 or so plants the problem i do have is not allowing us to work together or atleast service each others patients as needed i e "between harvests"type of thing.the thing is i think they have us in a catch 22 cause they know a real grower that knows what they are doing is going to produce more than what 5 patients will use in a month.they know most are setup on an atleast 2 month cycle few people on a small scale have a 3 room setup to go to 1 month cycles,

so on a 2 month cycle to keep that cycle running on par you will have to cut all of your crop down sure you can let some go a week or more over but that stops new plants from going 12/12"plant count rules".so really if you go by the law that would mean you would be having to throw away alot of your harvest 5 x 2oz per= 10 oz at any given time here.but if we go by the law there would be no way to stay on track and stay within dry limits per patient.which would then leave your patients high and dry the next 2 months waiting on the crop again.see what they have done here???? bottom line there is no way to stay legal and keep your patients supplied with meds here.

being that the patient is only allowed to have 2 oz's at a time there is no way for them to be able to stock up meds in any way even if they wanted to by all you had for that crop.i believe they know this and leo is foaming at the mouth knowing this and knowing there is no way to keep a patient supplied with this bs law.think about it......

yes i know the whole leave the meds on the plant and chop as needed thing.but 1 you can only do that for so long b4 quality starts to suffer,2 you run it so long that at the end somewhere there will be a 2 month gap to thwere no one has any meds.

the only way i could see doing it would be a perpetual but alot of people don't have that kind of space for 1 and 2 it would be a pain in the ass to try to know exactly how many plants to do at a time to keep patients happy and to not waste any.it's like being handed a stick with crap at both ends here it's bs.

[funkfingers]

Pretty sure as soon as you chop it down it's then considered usable medicine..
So the real kicker is what defines usable, because I know when most grows get raided and they add up the #'s to get weight, they will weigh plants whole/wet/with rootballs/count leaves and stems as herb..Hey look another Grey area:thumbsup: I really worry for these large ops as they are opening themselves up for the dea to raid these 100+ plant grows (that they know exactly where they are BTW)

If something cannot be done to stop this bill in it's tracks, I'm all for some kind of a patient/caregiver network..Still trying to figure out what the hell you're supposed to do if you yield more than your allowed amount..throw it away? can it be donated to people who cannot afford their meds? I guess you could just turn it in super concentrates, man 2oz of oil would last me a long time..

In relation to what this thread is really about your herb is worth whatever someone will pay for it.end of story, just like any other goods. If it's worth what you think it is then someone will buy it..if not might want to think about repricing your goods. anywhere in the 225-250 range is fair for quality.. If you didn't take the time to dry/cure properly, please do not come and try to pass your laziness on to others..If your product is something that you would be happy to purchase yourself , you will have no problems whatsoever finding people, that are eager to take it off your hands
sorry for the long winded rant..

fUnK:rastasmoke:

[funkfingers]

Pretty sure if all the rumors of stanley are true he'll get his on his own..
Karma works in mysterious ways..


Might be time to hold on to your prized genetics folks..Last thing I want is these clowns flooding the market with watered down P.M. infested versions of strains, that many of us have risked our freedom to obtain, and maintain the genetics.

Many I know who are being forced to go back underground, are the ones who have the potential to do the most good..At least I won't ever have to step foot in one of these huge MMJ centers, I feel terrible for those that will have to.. God is it possible for our government to not fuck something up!! ( trick question at this day in age I know)

[Klonzinc]

Pretty sure as soon as you chop it down it's then considered usable medicine..
So the real kicker is what defines usable, because I know when most grows get raided and they add up the #'s to get weight, they will weigh plants whole/wet/with rootballs/count leaves and stems as herb..Hey look another Grey area:thumbsup: I really worry for these large ops as they are opening themselves up for the dea to raid these 100+ plant grows (that they know exactly where they are BTW)

If something cannot be done to stop this bill in it's tracks, I'm all for some kind of a patient/caregiver network..Still trying to figure out what the hell you're supposed to do if you yield more than your allowed amount..throw it away? can it be donated to people who cannot afford their meds? I guess you could just turn it in super concentrates, man 2oz of oil would last me a long time..

In relation to what this thread is really about your herb is worth whatever someone will pay for it.end of story, just like any other goods. If it's worth what you think it is then someone will buy it..if not might want to think about repricing your goods. anywhere in the 225-250 range is fair for quality.. If you didn't take the time to dry/cure properly, please do not come and try to pass your laziness on to others..If your product is something that you would be happy to purchase yourself , you will have no problems whatsoever finding people, that are eager to take it off your hands
sorry for the long winded rant..

fUnK:rastasmoke:

I was advised by our lawyer that we should only caregive for 5 or less, the thing here is we have additional plants for 3 of those 5, and according to him; under 5 patients and you will not be on radar, also if a patient has a reccomendation for more on the original app then grow those plus your normal 30, and trust me I have had tremndous response from other patients who have no caregiver and or removing thier caregiver and already looking for places other than dispensaries to buy, if we network together we can put all of this back into a lot of patients hands. We trade product list and possibly product for product to keep everyone in stock and happy. Just a thought, shit I remember getting my first license in 01 and had no trouble finding patients to sell to, lol, of course that was when overgrow.com was around and the board was a little easier to use with pm and all.

[throatstick]

I was advised by our lawyer that we should only caregive for 5 or less, the thing here is we have additional plants for 3 of those 5, and according to him; under 5 patients and you will not be on radar, also if a patient has a reccomendation for more on the original app then grow those plus your normal 30, and trust me I have had tremndous response from other patients who have no caregiver and or removing thier caregiver and already looking for places other than dispensaries to buy, if we network together we can put all of this back into a lot of patients hands. We trade product list and possibly product for product to keep everyone in stock and happy. Just a thought, shit I remember getting my first license in 01 and had no trouble finding patients to sell to, lol, of course that was when overgrow.com was around and the board was a little easier to use with pm and all.

yup but only thing is if we got caught working together what would we be looking at law wise? i would'nt doubt the leo's to send 1 of their own in to get a card only to pose as one of us.no need to think they would go by the law now cause they never have. thats the bad part is they are making us group into 5's and we cannot deal with anyone else that part is total bs.that would really leave alot of people left out there that will have no choice but to make the dispensaries their caregiver.what a racket they have created....

[starter09]

Just a thought, shit I remember getting my first license in 01 and had no trouble finding patients to sell to, lol, of course that was when overgrow.com was around and the board was a little easier to use with pm and all.

The reason I didn't get a card until last year was that I knew no caregivers knew no way to contact any. Now I'm scuffling trying to find space in my tiny apt to set up a mom/clone grow. It was hard enough finding room for my small tent, I'd planned on meeting my needs from clone grows. Now I feel totally screwed. We need some sort of contact method for caregivers/patients to hook up but they've made that illegal, haven't they?