'11 Outdoor with Re Veg an Friends

[stra8outtaWeed]

Hey Stra8, thanks a lot man, but i got a ways to go. I really hope it goes well. Things look good and the deer havent touched them at all, but about every 4 days i take a big ass bunch of piss and blaze the trail with it. Its the only method iv heard of that makes sense.

Gotta say that your grow looked wonderful:hippy:. I was wondering what you felt about it, everyone has their own expectations of what they want in the end. I guess i just was hoping you were thrilled with it. Your a bit more used to having killer big grows, so when i check it out, its kinda like, just don't get the slobber on the keyboard, lol:thumbsup:

Il be watching your next one again for sure:thumbsup: i luv them lights man:hippy:


:rasta:

thanks..and i have to say i admire you for handling your challenges and taking care of yourself the way you do :thumbsup:

i am still learning a few things about the LED's in getting good yield based on a gram per watt basis....last one was .71gr/watt 320gr total dry...so it was an ok run as far as yield goes...i cannot complain about quality though ..ive been a little lazy with the camera but i will get some new pics soon...but overall i will say that i have learned alot in applying the LED's to my grow....my frustating thing as you can appreciate is i only let certain friends into my room that i can get help from in raising and lowering my lights...i had a pulley system on my hoods with HPS so it was easy for me to raise and lower 2 lights...but with 6 in the room it gets more complicated so i have them hung with chain and i have to get some help for my height challenged tasks...lol :smokin:

i have deer issues outside myself...i found a repellant that is a mix of spices and bloodmeal that works...i keep about a cup or so in a coffee can with a rock in it...so it does not get blown away from wind...but i keep it next to my green beans outside and put some fresh stuff in the cann about every 3 weeks and the deer stay away...so if the weather here ever warms up i was going to try some outdoor plants on my patio this year to see if could do an outdoor grow with a couple plants in 10gal containers :jointsmile:

[LetsSeeYa]

Here is what she looks like today. Not bad for sitting in my box without the fan on. Just really don't want to spread any pollen in the house.

I didn't take these, so il try an get a better quality pic of the sacks on this plant later. Just thought id show what they look like now, for a possible guess of a harvest time. Its under 2 26w CFL's and they are running 24/0 light. I thought with the 24/0 would help speed up they flowering, so then i can get what i need and burn the box and clean the light:hippy:


:rasta:

[Rusty Trichome]

I had a grow guide once, but learned 99% of what I know, in forums like this one. You can't ask books any questions nor can you ask for clarification on issues... Was kinda neat looking at the pictures, but grow guides soon become outdated as botanists and horticulturists are just figuring-out how to seperate necessity from myth. The info in the forums is real-life, is as current as it gets, and most plant problem diagnosis are relevant to your personal situation, if you fill-out the troubleshooting form.
(we're not sponsored by a book publisher, are we...?)

Jorge Cervantes and Mel Franks have a good reputation as cannabis authors. Kind of a dry read though. Not sure I remember the depth of their breeding info, but I don't think it's too deep.

You could Google 'Cannabis Breeding' Many helpful articles there. :jointsmile:

[LetsSeeYa]

thanks..and i have to say i admire you for handling your challenges and taking care of yourself the way you do :thumbsup:

Thanks man:jointsmile:most people tell me they couldnt do it, but i guess i look at it from a different view point. I have made it a game from day one. If i pick up the can and drink out of it i win, if i spill the damn thing i lose. Just an exampale, but thats how i go about each and every task i have, from the time im up to the time i go to bed. It makes life interesting for me and has made it easy for day to day crap. It works for me, but i dont like to lose, lol.

i am still learning a few things about the LED's in getting good yield based on a gram per watt basis....last one was .71gr/watt 320gr total dry...so it was an ok run as far as yield goes...i cannot complain about quality though ..ive been a little lazy with the camera but i will get some new pics soon...but overall i will say that i have learned alot in applying the LED's to my grow....my frustating thing as you can appreciate is i only let certain friends into my room that i can get help from in raising and lowering my lights...i had a pulley system on my hoods with HPS so it was easy for me to raise and lower 2 lights...but with 6 in the room it gets more complicated so i have them hung with chain and i have to get some help for my height challenged tasks...lol :smokin:

Wow man they say for someone to try an get .50gr per watt is what iv read. So you exceeded that by a lot, plus quality is good, so id gotta say WOW. But growing i thing we all want to step up each grow:hippy:. If you had figured out a way to raise your hps, i think you have the ability to make the switch to taking care of your own LED lights. It just might need more time to figure out just how to get it done. Ever thought of connecting them in a way that its only to raise and lower, you could use multiple pulleys maybe? Not there so hard to envision. But just thinking about it someday, i believe you will figure it out. I dont like anyone helping me with something i believe i could do myself.

[QOUTE]i have deer issues outside myself...i found a repellant that is a mix of spices and bloodmeal that works...i keep about a cup or so in a coffee can with a rock in it...so it does not get blown away from wind...but i keep it next to my green beans outside and put some fresh stuff in the cann about every 3 weeks and the deer stay away...so if the weather here ever warms up i was going to try some outdoor plants on my patio this year to see if could do an outdoor grow with a couple plants in 10gal containers :jointsmile:[/QUOTE]

Maybe il try that idea, but what was it called? I like being outside when its not to hot. With my issues, i dont sweat when im hot and thats how your body cools itself. So when its to hot, like when its to cold im stuck in the house. But outdoor growing gives me the chance to get out into the woods a bit. I really like nature in genral, so any chance i get im out in it. 10 gal pots would get ya some nice plants. I have one in a 5 and going to try the SOG method. Never did one, but the spot its in pretty much dictates this method.

Thanks for stopping man:rasta:

[stra8outtaWeed]

Maybe il try that idea, but what was it called? I like being outside when its not to hot. With my issues, i dont sweat when im hot and thats how your body cools itself. So when its to hot, like when its to cold im stuck in the house. But outdoor growing gives me the chance to get out into the woods a bit. I really like nature in genral, so any chance i get im out in it. 10 gal pots would get ya some nice plants. I have one in a 5 and going to try the SOG method. Never did one, but the spot its in pretty much dictates this method.

Thanks for stopping man:rasta:

the stuff is called DEER SCRAM...there is a website on the side www.deerscram.com

the active ingredients are;
dried blood 40%
garlic 3%
white pepper 3%
cloves 1%
meat meal 53%

i've tried to hit your yahoo and it wont let me through...hit mine and we can chat sometime :smokin:

[LetsSeeYa]

Well damn i think i found 1 more male in the family. This sucks because it was the biggest and best i had going, other then the re vegged plants. Just to lazy today or hot to chop it down, but il get it in the morning. I have 1 more family member which il put in its place. Its a great spot getting most of the days direct sun light. This one stinks, only because it look so good before i went out today with balls hanging off the lower top. Oh well lets just hope the others stay on the other side:thumbsup:and i should do ok outside this year. I only wish i would have started a few of the re vegged plants seed stock, just to get a NL plant outside.

See Ya:rasta:

[Hempsouth]

You are off to a good start, come early September you should have a huge harvest.

[Rusty Trichome]

Well damn i think i found 1 more male in the family. This sucks because it was the biggest and best i had going, other then the re vegged plants.

Chose the best male representation of the strain to use for breeding. If this male is the biggest, baddest, stinkiest and most stable...I'd let him flower and collect the pollen to store, or use, at your leisure.

Pollen is moist when it's fresh, don't tightly close the container till you are sure it's dry. I use either a 35mm film container, or a small plastic Ziplock container with the lid partially open to vent moisture. (moisture kills pollen) Stays fresh for a couple of weeks. Longer if kept in the fridge.

You can carefully 'paint' the pollen on individual pistils, or do an 'open release' and let the pollen pollinate whatever it finds. This method isn't as dramatic as it sounds, and is not nearly as efficient as painting the pistils, depending on how much pollen he's dropping, and how long the pollen is available. Leave him in there long enough, (a couple of days) and the resultant seeds will decrease yield.

I have a "Torture Chamber of Reproduction". It's a piece of plexiglass I made into a square tube about 1' x 1' x 4'. (open at both ends) A couple of weeks into flowering I'll slip it over the male to contain most of any premature release of pollen. (the tube balances on the pot edge) Once the male flowers open, some of the pollen sticks to the plexiglass, (static electricity) but the plexiglass protects him from the fan(s) and most of the pollen ends-up on his fan leaves. Once I think I have enough pollen, I carefully carry the whole shebang outside and carefully remove the tube to collect the pollen and cull the nasty male.
I looked for a picture, but will have to go take one if y'all want an example. It's ghetto, but it works. Would love to get my hands on a 4 or 5 feet length of 16" diameter plexiglass tube. (or two) Oh well.

[busybee]

Man i really need to read up on this. I cant find a place to read about seeds. I need so much info, because i don't understand what is what. F1 cross? Is there an F2 and that means? So i need to find some reading that would educate me on this kinda shit that i really want to know.
:rasta:

:thumbsup:hi LSY,a good book(if you want to learn about breeding)is "marijuana botany" by robert connell clarke.its very deep-i cant get my head round half of it,but then i wont need to when i can buy seeds from LSY SeedbanK in a few yrs:jointsmile:

[LetsSeeYa]

You are off to a good start, come early September you should have a huge harvest.

Hey there Hemp, who are things with you man:hippy: Iv been meaning to shot you an email, so look for one soon, thanks for the confidence man:thumbsup:

Chose the best male representation of the strain to use for breeding. If this male is the biggest, baddest, stinkiest and most stable...I'd let him flower and collect the pollen to store, or use, at your leisure.

Wish i would have read this before:chainsaw:. But the male growing in this box was 2nd biggest and also planted later then the bigger one i cut down today. I was sorta in a mad dash to get to watch my kid graduate.

[QUOTE]Pollen is moist when it's fresh, don't tightly close the container till you are sure it's dry. I use either a 35mm film container, or a small plastic Ziplock container with the lid partially open to vent moisture. (moisture kills pollen) Stays fresh for a couple of weeks. Longer if kept in the fridge./QUOTE]

Cool Rusty because i thought i could keep it in the fridge, but how long will it keep in there? Also, i was going to keep it in a film container, if the ex will let me use it, but il find something.

You can carefully 'paint' the pollen on individual pistils, or do an 'open release' and let the pollen pollinate whatever it finds. This method isn't as dramatic as it sounds, and is not nearly as efficient as painting the pistils, depending on how much pollen he's dropping, and how long the pollen is available. Leave him in there long enough, (a couple of days) and the resultant seeds will decrease yield.

I thought by painting the pollen on would give more control of it, because i really don't think i need much. I have a plant with lowryder 2 in it, along with some other very good genetics in it id like to try. It was breed by some people that know how to make seeds. I thought this would be the most stable of what i have, but also thought about putting a bit of pollen on a NL branch. Thing is im going to have to pull the branches apart. Just growing to close together, so i was going to use big rubber bands. Thought id just put them around different branches and pull them out a bit, then use stakes to hold them. This way they will still have the wind moving them around, also as they get bigger i can move the stakes out. I need to do this with the Skunk x NL as it needs it too, but not as bad so will see as it gets bigger. But the Edna is just growing perfect, just like a shrub now, but hoping for a bush:thumbsup:

I have a "Torture Chamber of Reproduction". It's a piece of plexiglass I made into a square tube about 1' x 1' x 4'. (open at both ends) A couple of weeks into flowering I'll slip it over the male to contain most of any premature release of pollen. (the tube balances on the pot edge) Once the male flowers open, some of the pollen sticks to the plexiglass, (static electricity) but the plexiglass protects him from the fan(s) and most of the pollen ends-up on his fan leaves. Once I think I have enough pollen, I carefully carry the whole she bang outside and carefully remove the tube to collect the pollen and cull the nasty male.
I looked for a picture, but will have to go take one if y'all want an example. It's ghetto, but it works. Would love to get my hands on a 4 or 5 feet length of 16" diameter plexiglass tube. (or two) Oh well.

Yeah iv seen yours in action in a pic you had with a few other plants just sitting around it. And i have one like it, but its a big tube. There is a place called ''hobby lobby'' that sells them in any size.:thumbsup:I have this one in a box iv used to veg a few seedlings, but will just take out the light and pot after collecting some pollen and burn the box, iv got a bunch of them just like it, boxes that is,lol.

Ok, i didn't think of this, but i have the light at 24/0 right now, but do i need 12/12 for the flowers to ripen? Common sense tells me i do, as this is what nature would do to keep itself from extinction. But still unsure of it, so a bit of help would be very, very appreciated:jointsmile:


Thanks for stopping by:weedpoke: :rasta: