Fogponics?????

[GetThisOrDie]

Damn... Thats alot of ladies. Ive been doing some catch up reading as well and just got here.

I like it when people bring out the federal crime bit when they see commercial grows. Growing any amount, even one seedling is a federal crime.

Maybe one day we can see the fogfognugan machine of misty death in all its glory!

[MadSativa]

my only question with foggeers is they use subsonic vibrations to make fog, which is great but what about beneficial Bactria? does it kill them or just send up with the fog? I know that even if you keep you finger on the foger for a while it will burn your finger so is it harmful to the beneficial Bactria and fungus? I would think so.

[Weezard]

my only question with foggeers is they use subsonic vibrations to make fog, which is great but what about beneficial Bactria? does it kill them or just send up with the fog? I know that even if you keep you finger on the foger for a while it will burn your finger so is it harmful to the beneficial Bactria and fungus? I would think so.

I'm sure you meant to type ultrasonic, but your point is valid.
You are prolly right.
I have seen foggers burn a track through lillypads.

The fish avoid it and I do not see any fried bugs surrounding it.
but it will "cavitate" most living tissue.
Whether there's a size of wee beastie that is too small to be affected, ah dunno.
I'm gonna go see if it will kill a fly, then a gnat, then....

Aloha,
Weeze

[MadSativa]

lol yes ultrasonic is what I was trying to get to, I'm kinda skeptical on if anything will live through a ultrasonic fogger that is alive such as Bactria or a fungi. but I can see how if it is as small as a Bactria then their can be some possibilities.

[oldmac]

Hey MadSativa,

The fogger I use for "fogfognugen" is not a cheap pond fogger, which you are correct and Weezard confirms does run hot.

I use a Frapaplas fogger that is designed for hort and industrial applications.
Cost was $629cdn, and in my opinion is worth every penny. It alows for more PPM of nutes then a pond fogger can handle.

It does make the root zone sterile and that's a good thing. The only reason to have "benifical" bacteria is if you have a medium that requires the break down of nutes in order for the plants to use them. Since I use no grow medium, and have both dry fog from the Frapa and wet fog from the high pressure pump, and produces particles 5-50 microns it does not require bacteria. With a sterile root zone there is no root rot or slime to deal with.

I have a an album that show's the construction of fogfognugen and it includes a picture of the Frsapaplas fogger.

OM

[MadSativa]

humm no beneficial bacterias and fungi? sounds strange because there also a need in hydro. I have seen the nutra misters and the real expensive ones. how big does your root mass get?enough to fill a 1 gallon pot or more? I will look for pics now.

[khyberkitsune]

Hey MadSativa,

The fogger I use for "fogfognugen" is not a cheap pond fogger, which you are correct and Weezard confirms does run hot.

I use a Frapaplas fogger that is designed for hort and industrial applications.
Cost was $629cdn, and in my opinion is worth every penny. It alows for more PPM of nutes then a pond fogger can handle.

It does make the root zone sterile and that's a good thing. The only reason to have "benifical" bacteria is if you have a medium that requires the break down of nutes in order for the plants to use them. Since I use no grow medium, and have both dry fog from the Frapa and wet fog from the high pressure pump, and produces particles 5-50 microns it does not require bacteria. With a sterile root zone there is no root rot or slime to deal with.

I have a an album that show's the construction of fogfognugen and it includes a picture of the Frsapaplas fogger.

OM

If your nutes have any urea or ammonia-derived nitrogen sources, you need microbes to convert those into plant-usable nitrates.

[oldmac]

If your nutes have any urea or ammonia-derived nitrogen sources, you need microbes to convert those into plant-usable nitrates.

Guess the simple answer to that then is don't use a nutrient with urea or ammonia nitrogen in it.

When I first started playing around with aeroponics seriously, I got some "aeroponic Liguid Nutrient" from AgriHouse because it stated that it contained no ammonia nitrate. I still have it un-opened, cause the DM gold I was using seemed to work fine and had no problems with it. I've heard from others that Humbolt works good in both aero and fog.

@MadSativa,

If I was more computer literate, I was going to put a link here to my old thread "aero/fog LED grow tray" so you could see what the root mass looks like and get a better idea what "fogfognugen" was about.

So for you, and anyone else who missed it back then, I'm going to shamelessly bump it....hope you see it.
OM

[GetThisOrDie]

Sweet. Im definitely going to check that thread again.

Im sure it will be as good now as it was the first 3 times.

[MadSativa]

@MadSativa,

If I was more computer literate, I was going to put a link here to my old thread "aero/fog LED grow tray" so you could see what the root mass looks like and get a better idea what "fogfognugen" was about.

So for you, and anyone else who missed it back then, I'm going to shamelessly bump it....hope you see it.
OM

I had found it last night the blanket of roots, really cool stuff, have you ever grown with HPS? I like your grows very interesting, perfect for those small spaces. I will be lookin at your grow logs, very cool differant than the norm.