T.H.Seeds in Boulder! Which shop?

[Zedleppelin]

Actually, all the SAGE being here has nothing to do with THSeeds being here in Colorado.....I went to Amsterdam in 2003 and bought a pack of SAGE seeds, grew them out in Ft Collins and Boulder, and picked the current phenotype that is going around all of Colorado.....I must have given it to 15-20 people just after the first harvest in 2003,....after the second harvest I gave it to another 20 people and everyone I gave it to said they gave it to multiple people.... and so on and so on.

Unfortunately, I'd say that about 50% of the people currently growing it haven't a clue as to what they are doing, and get these small, spindly nuggets, that don't even yield very well. Personally, the SAGE is one of the best yielders I have ever seen in my life and has been known to kick down over 3lbs per 1000w light on MANY occasions.....2.5 is about average among my friends.
The key(s) is lots of supercropping in veg, lots of topping, lots of bending, lots of pinching, get it wider than it is tall, and then flip it under a SCROG...Also, you gotta give it lots off runoff and lots of air flow (as with any strain)....I water my 5 gallon soil buckets with 3 gallons of water or food every watering....Also, lots of people who use dirt aren't letting their soil dry completely out before they water again....That shit should be bone dry.....If not, you are gonna cause a lack of oxygen in the roots, and cause root rot, making it hard for your plants to take anything up, and creating tiny little buds, but of good quality......If you really ever wanna get the yields that you hear people talking about in dirt (2-3 lbs per light), you HAVE to have serious runoff, serious airflow, very wide plants, and utilize a screen, especially for long flowering strains.....and again, let that dirt get so dry that it's almost to the point of wilting before you water it...
I could go on forever, and when I tell people about these yields on certain strains in dirt, in the scrog, alot of people think I am lying to them.....I just promise that I have no reason to lie to anyone, especially some people online who I don't even know.....I am just trying to (A) Spread some of the information I have obtained over the years and (B) hoping to see more SAGE that is truly representative of the strain and the way it was meant to be grown.....Call that selfish, but it's the alternative to hoarding a strain, which is a practice that I am not fond of, but can see in today's current market why people are doing it......Sometimes I wish I'd never given this strain to anyone and had it exclusively, but I really prefer to share and let everyone enjoy something that I enjoy.

Hope some of this helped someone somewhere.


Peace

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Zedleppelin Reviewed by Zedleppelin on 05-12-2010. T.H.Seeds in Boulder! Which shop? OK I saw someone post about this yesterday... some shop in Boulder is now offering T.H.Seeds! It's nice to finally have something around other than TGA/Subcool:D Not that those are bad, but bigger selection is always better! Anyone know which shop(s) has these? Also, anyone have any thoughts on T.H.Seeds strains? Here's what I pulled off the TH Seeds website... not sure if these are all carried locally: * s.a.g.e. * chocolate chunk * mendocino madness * heavy duty Rating: 5

[Sagemeister]

Hard to say just by looking.....It looks decent....Definitely not the best or worst I've ever seen.....Was it grown in soil? Organic?

[Sagemeister]

heres a pic of mine, before trimming:

[Weekend]

heres a pic of mine, before trimming:

know of anywhere your cut is available?...been looking for a sage, but dont want to grab some unproven vendor bs off a disp shelf.

Thanks

[Weekend]

and if it is available I got a few questions.

-flowering time?
-stretch from the flip?
-veg/bloom nute requirements?

Thanks

[Sagemeister]

In terms of getting it from a Dispensary, I haven't really given it out myself to any stores, but if Delta 9 has one, it's the same cut.....I can possibly talk to Jason down there and see if I can get him a couple.

As for floweing time, I personally like to pick it at 74....But it has a window from 70-80 days.....I like the taste a little early, it tends to give a sweet peachy flavor....That's where I pick the ones for my head....But in terms of resin and weight, closer to 80 is the way to go...It starts to almost taste like straight kif and does become more potent towards 80.....I just personally prefer the taste of it earlier.....either way, it's really one of those strains that really benefits from a long cure.....Sometimes I will keep a jar of what I thought was the best one, and then a month or two later, decide to try some of the other jar (that I thought was not as good), and i'll realize that now it tastes better on account of sitting in that sealed jar for awhile.

Stretch---They stretch like motherfuckers.....It's hard for me to tell you exactly how much because I use a screen, and I flower them about 1/2 a foot below the screen and when they hit the screen, I just start weaving them through, keeping them more or less at the same height, and then when the initial stretch is over, I just let them build their smokeable material upwar towards the light....They do stretch a ton...I can say that....but that is teh benefit of using a Scrog....You can take any long stretching, long flowering ssativa and it's n ot gonna get any closer to the light than a pure indica would.
The nute requirements are even harder for me to explain, because I really go by eye, every time....I will say they are definitely on the high end of flowering nute requirements.....I use plain Sunshine #4 soil, and I repot straight from cubes into 5 gallon Home Depot paint buckets....For the first 3 weeks of veg, I really don't give it anything but H2O......once the 4th week rolls around, I may start to see a little yellowing on the very bottom leaves and I actually hit em up with 2 gallons of water with 10ml Age Old Organics Flowering (It's a little lighter on the nitro and I feel safer with it),4-5 ml of Hyrozyme, and about 3ml of Liquid Karma in each gallon.

In Flowering, I ALWAYS give them 3 gallons, everytime they are thirsty, however, every 3rd watering, I give them pure H20.....When I do give them nutes, I start with 1 gallon of pure H20, and then hit them with 2 gallons of:10-15 ml Age Old Fl., 5ml Hygrozyme, and 5ml Liquid Karma per gallon
When I think it's needed, I hit them with a little succanat here or there, or a little Calcium or Magnesium if I see a deficiency.

[lampost]

Hey Sagemeister. What is the hygrozyme used for? Does that help break down nutes in the soil for the plants to utlize easier? I know it's used to break down dead roots and stuff and help prevent root rot... but just curious what other uses people see for it!

[funkfingers]

delta 9 is now carrying T.H. Seeds breeder packs,
Mk Ultra
Kushage

90$+ tax for a pack of 10:rastasmoke::rastasmoke:

[lampost]

Plan on getting any SAGE?

[funkfingers]

no sage just yet I know it's in the works though, along with the burmese kush, the sage and sour , and i think the darkstar as well. remember all these seeds are bred in the great state of Colorado so this kind of a thing takes some time.:jointsmile: