What to do after the passing of HB 1284 this morning?

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[quote=Justabloke]

so what you are saying then is you are not in favor of caregivers? only dispensaries? QUOTE]

NO! I'm not saying that. I'm saying I'm worried about the amount of people who will get into it whether or not they "should." The allure of money is pretty strong in this economy.

Accidents happen. People who arn't trained in setting up a proper MMJ grow WILL cause fires and loss of life. It's going to happen.

Give this to the people who know what they're doing and have the money to do it properly. Let them set up industrial grows where everything around the grow can be tightly controlled like fire suppression, security, ect. Attic grows will ONLY lead to a drastic increase in structure fires throughout Colorado just like in Mendocino County California. Then, they'd come back and say "see? We told you we needed to more tightly regulate this...look at all the fires!"

The fact that 100k people will need a caregiver will lead to a 20k person caregiver force growing meds in, on, and around their home...it will lead to fires.

That is my only point.

exactly pretty much what i just said you believe only the big boys should be able to grow.so anyone that does'nt have big money to own a shop it's danger to them as far as fires.i have been growing for awhile in small areas never once 1 fire scare. the point of keeping it all to the shops man i have to say i have been to many shops and alot don't even know what the fuck they are doing let alone run a grow.so that dog don't hunt sorry. do you really know how many people grow in their homes that are'nt legal? come on you have to be smarter than that. besides the fact that the state allows mmj patients to grow their own already.

yes i know leo will try to use anything to say see we need this or that.thats all a crock to take our rights away.we should'nt bow down just because of that.they will use anything,we could even go your route and take the rights away of the people and still they would find something else.and thats exactly what you seem to be saying since they will say this we need to take our rights and throw them out the window.what about people with fireplaces?,machine shops in their garage? metal workers? blacksmiths?

their are plenty of things you can buy to protect yourselfs.you see the new lil red fire tank you can hang in your room so if it gets above a certain degree it comes on and sprays everthing down?

[vegetabongrips]

I don't understand why they removed the taxes, unless it's a hope that now it will fail. I mean, I understand the whole "yay patient doesn't need to pay taxes now" but it seems like a HUGE selling point to the general public that this will generate taxes. It still will, but removing those sales taxes takes a significant chunk out of the cash flow in that direction.

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Justabloke- Patients have the right to grow anyways, theres TONS of patient grows that are half assed and probably plenty with electrical hazards. Point is I don't see anywhere on the news stories about mmj fires. I have temperature alarms and monitor my grow closely. I take it really seriously, I couldn't do it all myself though. I have a monitor with me in the house where I can see the enviroment settings at all times. Not to mention I had an electrician do the little wiring needed and I have two fire extinguishers on hand. I never leave my grow unattended. The novices out there that have fire hazards in their house wont be able to compete with real caregivers, producing real quality meds. The fire hazards won't stay up and running long enough to even create a fire. I don't see it being nearly as big of a concern as you do.

agreed and no im not being a prick im just stating that these people will try to take our rights away with anything.i have been doing this for a bit and anyone that does this for real takes everything they do at heart.we don't half ass shit the ones that do will pay simple.im tired of people thinking because of these few people over here that are dumb then we all should suffer for it.

[throatstick]

I don't understand why they removed the taxes, unless it's a hope that now it will fail. I mean, I understand the whole "yay patient doesn't need to pay taxes now" but it seems like a HUGE selling point to the general public that this will generate taxes. It still will, but removing those sales taxes takes a significant chunk out of the cash flow in that direction.

yes very odd i say.

[MMJinColorado]

The taxes thing was stricken shortly after it was passed according to this article: Medical marijuana bill passes Senate on second reading -- but obstacles remain - Denver News - The Latest Word
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Speaking of which, the last-minute flurry of activity included an amendment by Senator Josh Penry to designate medical marijuana as nontaxable at the state level. The amendment initially passed, but according to Brown, it failed in a subsequent procedure involving what's known as the Committee of the Whole, or COW in legislative parlance. In the end, he reveals, "sales taxes were repealed and then brought back half an hour later."

[Denvertoad]

I'll be there, it's time to stand up for ourselves. Moments like this don't come around often.


So many of us have paid heavy heavy dues for using marijuana. Legions of good people have been arrested and have records that have/will follow their entire lives. Many of us have lost jobs or been forced to choose between a career or mj. Who among us doesn't hide our usage from family in some fashion? For how long will we continue to accept living in fear of being stigmatized, marginalized, arrested, or incarcerated?



Turbo, Your comments about the younger generations involvement are spot on. Let's hope there is a groundswell of young activism.


We as a constituency, young and old, need to quit with the Cheech and Chong bullshit and approach MMJ with a serious attitude. It's an oxymoron but we're victims of our own success. I truly believe that unless the way mmj is approached and marketed that this bill is only the beginning of the end. Please, if you care at all, show up.


If I, a 51 year old cancer ridden old fuck, can drag my ass downtown so can you. Give me a shout if you need a ride, I'd be happy to pick you up :thumbsup:

[Feijao]

If I, a 51 year old cancer ridden old fuck, can drag my ass downtown so can you. Give me a shout if you need a ride, I'd be happy to pick you up :thumbsup:

That's the shit I like to hear right there.

Mike

[MMJinColorado]

If you feel like thanking someone who was trying her best for our cause, Sen. Morgan Carroll was the only one at the hearing today who was truly advocating for patients and introduced a slew of very progressive-minded and positive amendments (all of which were summarily shot down by the other legislators, who clearly have no clue)... You can reach her at [email protected] -- I hope anyone who is fortunate enough to be in District 29 supports her whole-heartedly, as she went to bat for us today.

I got a response back a few minutes ago after e-mailing to thank her and she was clearly feeling frustrated by the process... it's clear she cares for the cause and the patients. Hopefully her spirit will rub off on some of the others and we can get a few more sensible amendments added to this thing (or some of the ridiculous crap stricken out).

[wb1996]

Since the bill just passed is our only hope that the Gunba will shoot it down?

Feijao

I work at a disp. and this bill is bullshit. The people of colorado have spoken when they passed amdnt. 20. If they pass this we need to stick together and form a tight underground community so we can take care of each other and make sure we have the access to a verity of strains and to keep the quality top notch. I am tired of trying to play by the states rules because when you try to do the right thing and become legal they bend you over and stick it in you're ass. We the patients need to stick together because the state is not going to take care of our needs because of hb-1284. We must show up at the capitol the day this bill passes and also we need to show up early the next day and be ready to take the gloves off because they are not playing fair. The best thing that we can do is to create mass civil disobediance at the capital and be willing to go to jail for the night because if this passes it is time to turn this town up side down with protests and law suits. And for the disp. owners, we should take heed from greatful meds and refuse to pay theses bull shit fines. It is time to go underground and blow this shit up. they can not stop us. The ball is already rolling and the networks are already established so we will not go away and we will stand and fight. If this passes all the heads that are for real should have a meeting to strengthen our ties and so we can take care of each other. AND Romer by the way, you can suck my cock!!!!!!

[TruElements]

I have created the Veto March on the Governor's Mansion 5/15 @ 11:00 AM as a facebook event and will do my best to spread the word.