help!

[beginerbuddah]

ok so its a greenhouse seeds 'the church' seedling
about 7 days old under a 65watt 6400k cfl
The discoloring (pics 1 & 2) showed up about 2 days ago an has got worse with time
I also have an A.M.S seedling (pic 3) of the same age in the same grow cab thats doing fine, so i cant figure out whats causing it :wtf: :stoned:
can anybody help me out please :smokin:

beginerbuddah Reviewed by beginerbuddah on 05-04-2010. help! ok so its a greenhouse seeds 'the church' seedling about 7 days old under a 65watt 6400k cfl The discoloring (pics 1 & 2) showed up about 2 days ago an has got worse with time :( I also have an A.M.S seedling (pic 3) of the same age in the same grow cab thats doing fine, so i cant figure out whats causing it :wtf: :stoned: can anybody help me out please :smokin: Rating: 5

[headshake]

you need to fill out the troubleshooting form from my signature.

just off first glance your soil needs to be ammended. it's not allowing the roots to get enough oxygen. try adding 1/3 perlite to the mix. it also looks really wet. this is also bad. water 'til you have about 10% runoff out the bottom.

how close are they from the light? what nutes? just fill out the troubleshooting form. thanks.


-shake

[beginerbuddah]

thanks for the reply shake

i took the pics right after they had been waterd thats probly why it looks so wet, but your right the soil is poor quality. Theese plants are intended to be put outdoors and i used all my good soil preping my spot :stoned: so i had to pot them in some crappy soil that was layin around.

also basicly all my equipment got stolen (my ph/ec pens, hps, thermometor, fans and a load of cfl bulbs) so im on a pretty ghetto setup


My experience level? semi-experianced :wtf: (few succesfull grows under my belt, but by no means a pro)

My Equipment:
.1) Type and wattage of lights. 65 watt cfl 6400k 20 on 4 off
.2) Distance from tops? around 2cm
.3) Reflector type? home made reflector (plastic box facing down with the insie sprayed white an the bulb socket in the side)
.4) Is there a consistent fresh air supply? no (waiting on fan delivary)
.5) Do you have an exhaust fan and a circulation fan? no (waiting on fan delivary)


My medium:
.7) Specific brand and type of soil
.8) Size of container 2litre

My nutrients and water:
10) Source of water? tap
11) Method of checking water ph. none
12) Method of adjusting water ph. none
13) Specific brand and N-P-K ratio for each bottle. not given any ferts yet
14) How often are you watering between feedings, and how much per watering? maybe 500ml? around every 3 days
15) Any additives or tea's? no
18) Do you foliar feed? If so, with what, how often, and at what time do you spray? no

My growroom:
19) Indoors
20) What size of closet, about 2ft by 1ft by 2ft
21) What are the temps and humidity levels dont know
22) Have you seen signs of insects in the growroom? no
My strain:
23) What strain are you growing? 'the church' from greenhouse seeds it says its Swiss sativa x Skunk x Super Skunk x Northern Lights. indica sativa mix i think
24) From seeds or clones? feminized seed
25) Is this an autoflower strain? no

feedback greatly appreciated
peace :rastasmoke:

[JungleSuperstar]

ok so its a greenhouse seeds 'the church' seedling
about 7 days old under a 65watt 6400k cfl
The discoloring (pics 1 & 2) showed up about 2 days ago an has got worse with time
I also have an A.M.S seedling (pic 3) of the same age in the same grow cab thats doing fine, so i cant figure out whats causing it :wtf: :stoned:
can anybody help me out please :smokin:

7 days!! fair plays :jointsmile:

[beginerbuddah]

7 days!! fair plays :jointsmile:

thanks man :thumbsup:

[StinkyLink]

You might have used growing soil, growing soil contains ferts in it. You really need to start with seed soil with perlite, then you can control the ferts & allow the plant to breathe a lot better.

Also tap water contains trace elements with chlorine, I recommend distilled water its only like 89¢ a gallon at your local grocery store & its pretty clean of all trace elements plus no chlorine. But if you insist on using tap water, allow it to sit out for 24 hours to evaporate the chlorine.

When I first started my grow 3 months ago I made the mistake of using tap water & sprayed my leaves with it (foiler feeding as I found out its called), this left a residue on the leaves allowing the light to burn them.

Live & Learn :thumbsup: Ive only got 3 weeks left tell my first harvest!!!!

[headshake]

it wasn't the residue that was left on the plants that burnt them, it's the fact that water on the leaves acts as a magnifying glass. you should spray about 30 mins before the lights come on. you might also want to move the light up when you foliar feed.

by the way, plants need some chlorine, it's just when there is too much it toxic. many municipal water supplies use chloramine as opposed to chlorine nowadays. chloramine won't dissepate if you let the water set out.


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[beginerbuddah]

they have never been foiliar fed or had any water on the leaves before tho so this cant have caused the damage
i just checked them again now and the new growth on the church has brown tips to the leaves
can heat cause this beacause although they are about 2 cm from the cfl bulb the actual cab its self gets very very hot due to no ventiliation
somebody please help im scared my little ladys going to die

peace:rastasmoke:

[headshake]

it could be a temp problem. you need to exchange the air, not only to get rid of the oxygen and to replace it with co2 rich air, but because plants don't like to get real hot. if your temps are over about 85F then you need to look into some type of ventiltion. at about 90F photosynthesis stops.


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[cigarettes42]

that looks like a calcium deficiency and chlorine problem. i know your running tap water but is it softened water? i would get a water test kit at homedepot and check your water if its too soft. also wrinkly leaves like that ive seen mostly due to no chlorine dissipation. in the mean time you could just buy distilled water, add calmag and see if there is any changes