GM refuses to pay States 1284 Ransom

[milehighmediman]

A lot of very sensitive information moves through dispensaries like social security numbers and medical records. I would feel better knowing that the smiling bearded guy who just ran my credit card doesn't have seventeen convictions for identity theft.

I agree with this 100% heck even 1000%! I never really looked at it from that point of view.

sorry milehighmediman and GratefulMeds

No apologies required on my end. We all have a right to say what we want, even if others disagree.

I myself doubt I will ever have the desire/strength to open dispensary, if I ever make it out there. But I know I would want to be a caregiver or help others with meds, so this is the part of the bill I hate. But at least they are giving a way for that, it will just take 5 years.

Later

[GratefulMeds]

HB1284 Senate Vote on Wednesday

The full state Senate will have its first debate and vote on HB1284
tomorrow morning on the floor of the Senate. Public comment will not be
taken, but you can listen to the debate online at:
ColoradoChannel.net Homepage

Click here to contact your Senators:
Cannabis Therapy Institutue - Medical Cannabis (Marijuana) Research, Education and Advocacy in Colorado

CALL
Senate Offices: (303) 866-2316

Below is an Action Alert from medical marijuana attorney Danyel S. Joffe on
the threat for federal prosecution that HB1284 will cause for dispensaries.

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Medical Marijuana Action Alert Vol 15
Danyel S. Joffe
[email protected]
303-757-6572

May 04, 2010
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UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES
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HB10-1284 states that all Medical Marijuana Centers must grow at least 70%
of their own Cannabis.

For many Centers this will require growing over 100 plants. This is
significant because the DEA isn't really interested in busting operations
growing less than 100 plants because the penalty is usually probation.
However, grow over 100 plants and there is a five-year mandatory minimum
prison sentence.

Thus, it isn't worth the effort to bust a grower with 75 plants. But hit
the 100 level and the stakes grow significantly. This makes it worthy of
DEA attention.

If you have heard rumors about the 100 plant limit, this is why.

This is where the rule of unintended consequences comes into play. By
prohibiting Medical Marijuana Centers from buying no more than 30% of their
product from other sources, they must grow 70% of their own Cannabis.
Thus, Centers face going over the 100 plant limit and becoming subject to
Federal Interest.

Based on my research, Federal Judges in California don't seem to care if
the Cannabis is being grown for medical marijuana. Go over 100 plants and
get hammered. The same will probably be true in Colorado.

The Colorado Bill will force Medical Marijuana Centers to grow more than
100 plants, or face not having enough product. This is a classic Catch 22.
To comply with State Law and keep your license, you are forced to commit a
significantly more serious Federal Felony.

This requirement appears to be an unintended consequence of the
legislation. Please Let Your Legislators Know.

You must write your State Representative and Senator and ask them to drop
the 70/30 rule. Tell them to look at page 36, line 14-20. Also known as
C.R.S. 12-43.3-402(4).

Go to COMaps: Find Your Elected District and type in your home
address. It will give you information on how to contact your State
Representative and State Senator.
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Visit the Joffe Law Firm's website for previous of the Medical Marijuana
Action Alerts:

Medical Marijuana

[GratefulMeds]

Oh no offense taken in the least. This is the internet, after all, and it's fine to start shit. That's almost the entire reason I post here.

I feel like I have to repeat myself again, though: I'm sensitive to individual circumstances, and I know that not all felonies are equally serious. I think an exemption for people whose felonies stem from cultivation is reasonable.

HOWEVER...

This is a case where the interests of patients and of businesses are opposed. There is no argument I've yet heard that has convinced me that, as a patient, I would be better served if felons are allowed to act as dispensary owners, employees or caregivers. A lot of very sensitive information moves through dispensaries like social security numbers and medical records. I would feel better knowing that the smiling bearded guy who just ran my credit card doesn't have seventeen convictions for identity theft. Patients need to be able to trust their health providers, especially if the patient is disabled in a way that makes them easy to take advantage of. I think a blanket prohibition (with aforementioned exemption) of all felonies for all people who are in contact with patients is a good idea. If it comes to a choice between all felons or none.... sorry milehighmediman and GratefulMeds.

I thought this article might interest you.
Gretchen Burns Bergman: Moms Unite to End the War on Drugs
:thumbsup::jointsmile:

[vegetabongrips]

There is no argument I've yet heard that has convinced me that, as a patient, I would be better served if felons are allowed to act as dispensary owners, employees or caregivers. A lot of very sensitive information moves through dispensaries like social security numbers and medical records. I would feel better knowing that the smiling bearded guy who just ran my credit card doesn't have seventeen convictions for identity theft.

Since I'm doubting that you inquire whether or not a restaurant has a strict "no felons" policy before dining, why are you willing to take that risk for every other industry but not MMJ?

Pushing for it for dispensaries just lends credence to the concept that dispensaries and marijuana are "bad" somehow and they're obviously going to employ a bunch of miscreants if they're not bound by this law.

My restaurant example is an excellent one. Because of the nature of the work (hours, skill) there ends up being a lot of folks going through most any restaurant with a reasonably shady background. I personally know of three places which will hire felons.

[COzigzag]

I have more patient care experience under my belt then I dare say 90% of dispensaries and caregivers out there. but under this law I can't be a caregiver. I have been on the registry for 7 years a designated caregiver for 6 of those years, but now because of some imagined fright I am disqualified, I don't think so Kill This Bill!:thumbsup:

My interpretation of HB10-1284 may be wrong here, but the way I read it you can be a Caregiver and have a felony. They aren't going to license Caregivers. Now if you want to be put on the state's list of Caregivers then you have to go through their hoops: "TO PASS THE FINGERPRINT-BASED CRIMINAL HISTORY RECORD CHECK, THE PRIMARY CAREGIVER SHALL NOT HAVE BEEN CONVICTED OF A FELONY PURSUANT TO PART 4 OF ARTICLE 18 OF TITLE 18, C.R.S., WITHIN THE FIVE YEARS PRECEDING THE CRIMINAL HISTORY RECORD CHECK."

Besides, wasn't your conviction more than 5 years ago?

Are we talking about the same thing here or are you talking about obtaining a Medical Marijuana Center License?

My mind is becoming mush over this GD POS bill!

[Zedleppelin]

My interpretation of HB10-1284 may be wrong here, but the way I read it you can be a Caregiver and have a felony. They aren't going to license Caregivers. Now if you want to be put on the state's list of Caregivers then you have to go through their hoops: "TO PASS THE FINGERPRINT-BASED CRIMINAL HISTORY RECORD CHECK, THE PRIMARY CAREGIVER SHALL NOT HAVE BEEN CONVICTED OF A FELONY PURSUANT TO PART 4 OF ARTICLE 18 OF TITLE 18, C.R.S., WITHIN THE FIVE YEARS PRECEDING THE CRIMINAL HISTORY RECORD CHECK."

Besides, wasn't your conviction more than 5 years ago?

Are we talking about the same thing here or are you talking about obtaining a Medical Marijuana Center License?

My mind is becoming mush over this GD POS bill!

I believe he owns a dispensary.

[GratefulMeds]

If you agree with this last effort, pass this on immediately.

If your happy with this desecration of our constitution for greed....delete it!



VETO March on the Governors Mansion
Gather at the Civic Center Park 5-15 @ 11 AM
If we can gather a large assembly of people, 1000 or more we will walk to the Governor's Mansion. If only a few show up, we can just demonstrate along Broadway St. across from the Capitol. This is a Constitutional Right to Assemble for a VETO March!



As a Nationally Certified alternative care Naturopath, Master Herbalist, Homeopath and Holistic Nutritional consultant trained in degenerative disease and maintaining wellness for 33 years, I am appalled at the disregard
of the voice of the people to the Legislators and Senators of this state concerning HB10-1284 and SB10-109

I am pleading with everyone to call, email and fax letters to the Capitol. HB10-1284 must be stopped. Amendment 20, Article XVlll, section 14 of the Colorado constitution was trampled on by the large majority of ELECTED Officials today at the Capitol. If you are a caregiver that is not a dispensary, L.140 amendment holds you to NO more than 30 plants TOTAL for your 5 patients. Only a dispensary will be able to provide the needed access of additional medicine. I have been in support of a dispensary model, however this is over the top!

It was also very insulting to the patients of Colorado with degenerative illnesses to listen to the puns and jokes out of Romer's mouth, he even made a joke about the senators with MMJ licenses.......This was to insinuate why they were not supportive of this bill. Romer referred to more than 50% of dispensary owners are Thugs. Spence said she doesn't support organized crime, insinuating that the dispensaries that will be put out of business are the ones with organized crime money.

There will be a 3rd reading of this bill. This session is over next week!

Do Not Waste Time.........call, fax and email. This is an ELECTION YEAR Let them know if you are their constituent, tell them you are paying attention to the votes and you want them to VOTE NO on the 3rd reading!!!

If this does not get their attention, all we have left is to PICKETT the Governor's mansion!!!
Let's set a date of May 15th to organize at the Civic Center Park at 11 am. Bring Large VETO Signs with the bill numbers on them, bring every ADULT you can round up and let's walk from the park to the Governor's mansion and have a peaceful public gathering to send the Governor a loud and clear message!!!

We must mount an army of people for this. A few hundred to show up is not acceptable, we need a thousand or more to get his attention!!!

I hope that everyone will go into the voting booths in NOVEMBER and VOTE NO on every Legislator and Senator that VOTED on these bills passage to allow a monopoly to the large dispensaries and blatantly walked all over our constitutional rights!!!

Sincerely,
Kimberly Matteo, N.D., M.H.
303-835-2743


Thought I'd pass this along.

:thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:

[GratefulMeds]

*shrug*

Why are criminal background checks such a big deal? We do the same for everybody from barbers to liquor store owners to teachers. This might sound a little harsh, but I don't think felons should have any role in MMJ distribution. That five year rule is extremely generous. In my profession, as in most, a single felony or even some kinds of misdemeanors would end a person's career before it began. It is my sincere hope that MMJ caregivers, dispensary owners, and all people involved in this business are held to extremely high standards of personal conduct because of the position of trust they are in vis a vis their patients.

I could live with exemptions for felonies connected with growing marijuana, but it's not wise to allow the general class of felon to be health care providers, especially in an area as new as this industry. Felons should not be giving medical advice to my sick mother, or any other sick people, particularly if there is an underlying financial relationship. The idea of putting the most dishonest and unethical segment of our society in a position of power over the sickest and most vulnerable members of our society is.... well... fucking insane. There's no other word for it. Fingerprinting and background checks and felony prohibitions will help protect patients from conmen and thieves in the exact same way that they protect kids at school from sex offenders.

I don't mean to knock GM, and I think they should definitely proceed with a court challenge to this law, hopefully with other MMJ providers. I'm sensitive to individual circumstances, and understand that not all felonies are equally serious, but felons should not be allowed in this business. Too harsh?

Let's refer to the document in question the State of Colorado Constitution:
:jointsmile:
Article 7 section 10 of the Colorado Constitution clearly states that all rights of citizenship are restored once someone completes their sentence, which makes the lifelong ban on drug felons unconstitutional. As a matter of fact felons were allowed to have firearms in Colorado until the Brady Bill was enacted. There has since been an amendment added barring felons from firearms, but this bill does not amend Article 7 section 10.:jointsmile::jointsmile::jointsmile:

[milehighmediman]

I read the 77 pages last night and I am not sure as I was so tired but they ammended that part to 5 years after discharge and no 5 year restriction on Primary cargivers. It is not a full life time ban now.

Later

[GratefulMeds]

I read the 77 pages last night and I am not sure as I was so tired but they ammended that part to 5 years after discharge and no 5 year restriction on Primary cargivers. It is not a full life time ban now.

Later

Thanks for the update, it's hard to keep up with these clowns!:thumbsup: