just in from 9 news an hour ago.

[lampost]

i see and how do they propose they regulate your "cost" as a caregiver? the ones that grow and i mean real growers not the little 600watt in your closet setup knows how much it cost to really grow good meds.and news flash it is'nt cheap. also you would have to calculate the growers exp and time into the cost.so how is this supposed to help anyone again?

also that still cuts out the small guys and the shops does anyone realize how many people this is going to sink? with the jobless rate at such a high along with high prices across the board on everything and the state and romer wants to do this now? WTF WOW

Don't worry man you'll still be able to be compensated for your efforts. You don't have to just donate your time!! You can charge an hourly rate for your caregiving services... At this point I don't think the government has told us what a reasonable hourly fee would be for caregiving services ("tending to plants").... so you can set whatever you want and make the exact same amount of money you did before by working the equation backwords (Time x Rate = $$$). Obviously, you'll also be passing on the cost of electricity/supplies/etc onto your patients as well in order to cover expenses... so your hourly rate will be your compensation.

lampost Reviewed by lampost on 04-28-2010. just in from 9 news an hour ago. http://www.9news.com/news/article.aspx?storyid=137712&catid=339 "The rules would even bar anyone who has failed to repay student loans from setting up shop." "There's lots of concern because lots of people have made a decision to get into this business. It's been kind of the Wild West. Today is the day we begin to get control of the Wild West and it's not going to be your average mom and pop business. It is the controlling, growing and dispensing of a controlled substance which means it Rating: 5

[palerider7777]

Don't worry man you'll still be able to be compensated for your efforts. You don't have to just donate your time!! You can charge an hourly rate for your caregiving services... At this point I don't think the government has told us what a reasonable hourly fee would be for caregiving services ("tending to plants").... so you can set whatever you want and make the exact same amount of money you did before by working the equation backwords (Time x Rate = $$$). Obviously, you'll also be passing on the cost of electricity/supplies/etc onto your patients as well in order to cover expenses... so your hourly rate will be your compensation.

exactly which if it stays like that it will be fine on the low side but the "middleclass"so to speak will be wiped out.and just think of how we will have to dance around dry usable weight.this will somewhat put the wrench in the cog. as most patients only need a couple oz's a month far from what you will have come harvest.so now instead of being able to off load the rest to keep on trucking you will have to keep most of the plants alive until all is gone which will hold things up.i guess it's ok for some but for those pulling close to an lb per plant it will be a back up.

humm just a thought but this is where we as a whole as small caregivers and patients should ban together so we can network amongest ourselfs to off load extras to each other as needed and to keep the vast amount of diffrent strains available to each other? this could bring us closer if they don't try to push more laws on it to push us even further away from each other.

[Klonzinc]

so are you saying none of the bill if passed would go in effect until next july?only the ban on any new disp?

This is correct, Romer was saying that all state licensing apps need to be in by the 15th of June and the ban starts on the 1st of July and the actual law it self will begin the 1st of July 2011, disp. must have the app in by the 15th of June 2010 or they will not get approved.

[GratefulMeds]

agreed and romer needs to be voted out in nov.but we know that will never happen.im starting to think he is going for that 1 big sellout payday b4 he goes.

Don't vote him in, he is about to run for Mayor of Denver

[GratefulMeds]

how is Clair Levy holding up on this? the bill hasn't passed yet, I guess the feeling is it will?

Ritter is anti-pot (an ex prosecutor). so you can forget about a veto. He's 100% behind 109.

Claire voted no in the house and I believe she will vote no on the floor.:thumbsup:

[GratefulMeds]

might want to ck that or it might be right idk i was told that by greatful.i was told that it was all to go in effect this july.but i was also told the other day that if this passed it would not take effect until next year so idk which is correct.

so are you saying none of the bill if passed would go in effect until next july?only the ban on any new disp?

They have moved the date up to July 2010 from July 2011 and they want their money upfront.

[michaelnights]

Corry was successful in striking down the 5 patient limit because the CDPH&E didn't follow state rules calling for public hearings on new regulations. When the hearing were finally convened in June 2009 (as ordered by the court) the CDPH&E was convinced not to apply the 5 patent limit.

When the General Assembly goes through the proper constitutional process, like they are now, and vote to elect the 5 patient rule, it becomes law.

[michaelnights]

4 (d) A PRIMARY CAREGIVER MAY NOT CHARGE A PATIENT MORE
5 THAN THE COST OF CULTIVATING OR PURCHASING THE MEDICAL
6 MARIJUANA, BUT MAY CHARGE FOR CAREGIVER SERVICES.
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If you're a grower and provide 1oz to a patient - let's say one lamp produced 1lb in 3 months. You can charge the patient 1/16th the cost of electricity for the one lamp x 3 months, plus 1/16th the cost of nutrients and water. Then add a charge of $350 for the home delivery "service".

[Feijao]

I have a couple of questions that are about delivery services if any one can help.

1. If I grow much more than my 5 patients can use a month am I allowed to sale the extra meds to others that are not my patients?

2. I guess this should of been the first question lol. Are delivery services even allowed under the new laws? Are they treated the same as dispensaries?

3. Am I allowed to sell 12oz to another caregiver if he has 5 patients under him?

Thanks I am sure I will have more questions after getting help on these.

[Zedleppelin]

I have a couple of questions that are about delivery services if any one can help.

1. If I grow much more than my 5 patients can use a month am I allowed to sale the extra meds to others that are not my patients?

2. I guess this should of been the first question lol. Are delivery services even allowed under the new laws? Are they treated the same as dispensaries?

3. Am I allowed to sell 12oz to another caregiver if he has 5 patients under him?

Thanks I am sure I will have more questions after getting help on these.

No, you will not be able to get rid of your meds to anyone but your 5 patients, and all caregivers will have to undergo a background check and fingerprinting:

Primary caregivers. (a) A PRIMARY CAREGIVER MAY NOT
DELEGATE TO ANY OTHER PERSON HIS OR HER AUTHORITY TO PROVIDE MEDICAL MARIJUANA TO A PATIENT NOR MAY A PRIMARY CAREGIVER ENGAGE OTHERS TO ASSIST IN PROVIDING MEDICAL MARIJUANA TO A PATIENT.
(b) TWO OR MORE PRIMARY CAREGIVERS SHALL NOT JOIN
TOGETHER FOR THE PURPOSE OF CULTIVATING MEDICAL MARIJUANA.
(c) ONLY A MEDICAL MARIJUANA CENTER WITH AN OPTIONAL
PREMISES CULTIVATION LICENSE OR A PRIMARY CAREGIVER FOR HIS OR HER PATIENTS OR A PATIENT FOR HIMSELF OR HERSELF MAY CULTIVATE OR PROVIDE MARIJUANA AND ONLY FOR MEDICAL USE.

(e) TO PASS THE FINGERPRINT-BASED CRIMINAL HISTORY RECORD CHECK, THE PRIMARY CAREGIVER SHALL NOT HAVE BEEN CONVICTED OF A FELONY PURSUANT TO PART 4 OF ARTICLE 18 OF TITLE 18, C.R.S., WITHIN THE FIVE YEARS PRECEDING THE CRIMINAL HISTORY RECORD CHECK.
(V) THE STATE HEALTH AGENCY MAY MAKE AN EXCEPTION, BASED
ON A REQUEST FROM A PATIENT, TO PARAGRAPH (a) OF THIS SUBSECTION
(6) LIMITING PRIMARY CAREGIVERS TO FIVE PATIENTS. IF THE STATE HEALTH AGENCY MAKES AN EXCEPTION TO THE LIMIT, THE STATE HEALTH AGENCY SHALL NOTE THE EXCEPTION ON THE PRIMARY CAREGIVER'S RECORD IN THE REGISTRY.