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    It's HB 10-1284 - 25-1.5-106 (6)(V)(f) STUPID !

    HB 10-1284 Sec. 2. 25-1.5-106 (6)(f) limits patients to a single, insecure source for buying their medicine.

    This single clause is the link-pin to defeating HB 10-1284.

    If a patient wants to BUY their medicine at a ??licensed medical marijuana center,? they must chose one and note that one dispensary on their ID application or renewal form. This becomes their single and only legal source for BUYING medical cannabis in CO. There is no exception nor lawful means in the bill to change your single registered dispensary until the next year's application.

    * What if your chosen dispensary stops growing of your strain of medicine? TOUGH!

    * What if they have a crop failure? TOUGH !

    * What if they simply run out of the variety needed on the day it's needed? TOUGH!

    * What if a patient must move across state? TOUGH!

    * What if the bud tender insists upon a date with a patient before selling them their medicine? TOUGH !

    This horribly abusive law leaves patients with no other lawful option to BUY their medicine.

    That punishes and brings great misery to patients. It's a patients rights issue. Issues of patients right have HUGE support and this is the most important one.

    A Monopoly in the Making

    A small number of wealthy dispensary owners are lobbying to create a monopoly by recruiting/capturing patients and legally prevent them from shopping anywhere else.

    If this clause stays in the bill, even if caregivers get all the issues they wish, they are still screwed. It will be extremely difficult to impossible for a caregiver or smaller dispensaries to compete and stay in business in this new market.

    If we can get the Senate to strike this single clause from HB 10-1284, we can prevent a small handful of wealthy, mega-dispensaries from monopolizing the half billion dollar mmj industry in CO.

    If patients are allowed to shop for and BUY their medicine at any dispensary of their choice, caregivers can obtain a state license to compete. At which point it simply comes down to the price of a license.

    If we can remove this single clause it unravels the bill.

    25-1.5-106 (6)(V)(f) IS A PATIENT ISSUE

    It's difficult to oppose reform that 'supposedly' even has the "support of industry." Lobbying against changes in the existing bill as being harmful to caregivers is a loser. It's not going to make a difference. Many in the legislature see that as a money issue important to 'drug dealers' charging patients far to much for their medicine. It's a loser.

    THIS MUST BE A PATIENT ISSUE.

    If we turn this into a fight for patients rights, for the "truly sick and dying" NO ONE can or will object and they will strike the clause from the bill.

    HAMMER the term "truly sick and dying" and kill 25-1.5-106 (6)(V)(f) or live with Sen. Romer as a god!

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    michaelnights Reviewed by michaelnights on . It's HB 10-1284 - 25-1.5-106 (6)(V)(f) STUPID ! HB 10-1284 Sec. 2. 25-1.5-106 (6)(f) limits patients to a single, insecure source for buying their medicine. This single clause is the link-pin to defeating HB 10-1284. If a patient wants to BUY their medicine at a ??licensed medical marijuana center,? they must chose one and note that one dispensary on their ID application or renewal form. This becomes their single and only legal source for BUYING medical cannabis in CO. There is no exception nor lawful means in the bill to change Rating: 5

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  3.     
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    Senior Member

    It's HB 10-1284 - 25-1.5-106 (6)(V)(f) STUPID !

    Quote Originally Posted by michaelnights
    HB 10-1284 Sec. 2. 25-1.5-106 (6)(f) limits patients to a single, insecure source for buying their medicine.

    This single clause is the link-pin to defeating HB 10-1284.

    If a patient wants to BUY their medicine at a ??licensed medical marijuana center,? they must chose one and note that one dispensary on their ID application or renewal form. This becomes their single and only legal source for BUYING medical cannabis in CO. There is no exception nor lawful means in the bill to change your single registered dispensary until the next year's application.

    * What if your chosen dispensary stops growing of your strain of medicine? TOUGH!

    * What if they have a crop failure? TOUGH !

    * What if they simply run out of the variety needed on the day it's needed? TOUGH!

    * What if a patient must move across state? TOUGH!

    * What if the bud tender insists upon a date with a patient before selling them their medicine? TOUGH !

    This horribly abusive law leaves patients with no other lawful option to BUY their medicine.

    That punishes and brings great misery to patients. It's a patients rights issue. Issues of patients right have HUGE support and this is the most important one.

    A Monopoly in the Making

    A small number of wealthy dispensary owners are lobbying to create a monopoly by recruiting/capturing patients and legally prevent them from shopping anywhere else.

    If this clause stays in the bill, even if caregivers get all the issues they wish, they are still screwed. It will be extremely difficult to impossible for a caregiver or smaller dispensaries to compete and stay in business in this new market.

    If we can get the Senate to strike this single clause from HB 10-1284, we can prevent a small handful of wealthy, mega-dispensaries from monopolizing the half billion dollar mmj industry in CO.

    If patients are allowed to shop for and BUY their medicine at any dispensary of their choice, caregivers can obtain a state license to compete. At which point it simply comes down to the price of a license.

    If we can remove this single clause it unravels the bill.

    25-1.5-106 (6)(V)(f) IS A PATIENT ISSUE

    It's difficult to oppose reform that 'supposedly' even has the "support of industry." Lobbying against changes in the existing bill as being harmful to caregivers is a loser. It's not going to make a difference. Many in the legislature see that as a money issue important to 'drug dealers' charging patients far to much for their medicine. It's a loser.

    THIS MUST BE A PATIENT ISSUE.

    If we turn this into a fight for patients rights, for the "truly sick and dying" NO ONE can or will object and they will strike the clause from the bill.

    HAMMER the term "truly sick and dying" and kill 25-1.5-106 (6)(V)(f) or live with Sen. Romer as a god!

    COPY AND PASTE EMAILS:
    [email protected],
    [email protected],
    [email protected],
    [email protected],
    [email protected],
    [email protected],
    [email protected]
    I really think your on to something here. I will hammer this point home if I get a chance to speak Tuesday. thanks

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    #3
    Member

    It's HB 10-1284 - 25-1.5-106 (6)(V)(f) STUPID !

    I'm really bothered by many provisions of this bill.

    But I'm more concerned by the public reaction, the hostility I encounter, from the general public.

    They're still out there. Most of them never gave a crap either way, but some of those folks are...well, almost disturbed by how "in your face" this feels. Also there's the constant complaint about using medicinal marijuana as a ruse to get high.

    It's troubling because these folks are just as impassioned as any other. And they're so happy at the idea that there'd be only "one stupid dispensary" they'd pass on their way to work than the dozen or so currently.

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    #4
    Senior Member

    It's HB 10-1284 - 25-1.5-106 (6)(V)(f) STUPID !

    Quote Originally Posted by GratefulMeds
    I really think your on to something here. I will hammer this point home if I get a chance to speak Tuesday. thanks
    yes plz do so,also talk about how this will hurt the small time grower trying to help patients by keeping down costs.also talk about how we need these types of bills to help the mmj movement not give more rights to leo to use against us.

    talk about how this bill as it is will help hurt mmj not help us.how it will expose private people that want to stay private and can open the doors to caregivers being robbed. if we have to apply for a biz lic tax id and so on to be a vendor there needs to be a way to hide our info and protect it from getting in public/leo's hands.

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    #5
    Senior Member

    It's HB 10-1284 - 25-1.5-106 (6)(V)(f) STUPID !

    This becomes their single and only legal source for BUYING medical cannabis in CO.
    Are you sure you are reading this correctly? It appears to me that a patient must designate a dispensary in the same way as they would designate a primary caregiver. If so, this wouldn't necessarily preclude them from buying from another dispensary unless there is language in there that specifically forbids it. I'm not saying youre wrong, just wondering if our legislators might be given the benefit of the doubt relative to not being totally corrupt, and/or clueless.

    I've got an MMJ attorney looking this bill over right now. I'll be talking to him later this morning.

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    #6
    Senior Member

    It's HB 10-1284 - 25-1.5-106 (6)(V)(f) STUPID !

    Quote Originally Posted by puntacometa
    Are you sure you are reading this correctly? It appears to me that a patient must designate a dispensary in the same way as they would designate a primary caregiver. If so, this wouldn't necessarily preclude them from buying from another dispensary unless there is language in there that specifically forbids it. I'm not saying youre wrong, just wondering if our legislators might be given the benefit of the doubt relative to not being totally corrupt, and/or clueless.

    I've got an MMJ attorney looking this bill over right now. I'll be talking to him later this morning.
    I just got off the phone with my attorney. His interpretation of this agrees with mine...IOW....the bill does not restrict patients to shopping at only one dispensary. they designate a dispensary as their primary caregiver and then they can show their registraion card at any dispensary in the state and uy meds.

    The big downside for patients and growers will be when the big dispensaries start squeezing their growers for price reductions. This will create two scenarios, neither one of them good.

    1. If the price drops and the dispensary isn't moving enough product to roll over a large quantity every day, then the grower will have the choice of either cutting back on his crew and certain expensive overhead items like nutes and HID lights or taking a huge hit to his margins, at which point it may not make sense to continue as a grower. I'm really going to have a problem with my name being associated with mediocre/crappy pot. A big grow is a huge amount of work and I may just say fuck it.

    2. The dispensaries that survive will be like Sams Clubs and Monsanto/Archer Daniels Midland will be the only ones supplying their product.

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    #7
    Senior Member

    It's HB 10-1284 - 25-1.5-106 (6)(V)(f) STUPID !

    agreed

  9.     
    #8
    Senior Member

    It's HB 10-1284 - 25-1.5-106 (6)(V)(f) STUPID !

    Quote Originally Posted by puntacometa
    I just got off the phone with my attorney. His interpretation of this agrees with mine...IOW....the bill does not restrict patients to shopping at only one dispensary. they designate a dispensary as their primary caregiver and then they can show their registraion card at any dispensary in the state and uy meds.

    The big downside for patients and growers will be when the big dispensaries start squeezing their growers for price reductions. This will create two scenarios, neither one of them good.

    1. If the price drops and the dispensary isn't moving enough product to roll over a large quantity every day, then the grower will have the choice of either cutting back on his crew and certain expensive overhead items like nutes and HID lights or taking a huge hit to his margins, at which point it may not make sense to continue as a grower. I'm really going to have a problem with my name being associated with mediocre/crappy pot. A big grow is a huge amount of work and I may just say fuck it.

    2. The dispensaries that survive will be like Sams Clubs and Monsanto/Archer Daniels Midland will be the only ones supplying their product.
    i don't see how any of this would cause prices to drop i see the exact opposite.

  10.     
    #9
    Senior Member

    It's HB 10-1284 - 25-1.5-106 (6)(V)(f) STUPID !

    I'm so confused by what I read now regarding the "squeezing" of growers. Everyone wanted dispensaries to lower prices at the end of last year and the industry responded. Now everyone is worried that caregivers are not making as much as they can off of their grow.

    Were dispensaries supposed to just eat the cost of lowered prices on their own?

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    #10
    Senior Member

    It's HB 10-1284 - 25-1.5-106 (6)(V)(f) STUPID !

    Quote Originally Posted by TheReleafCenter
    I'm so confused by what I read now regarding the "squeezing" of growers. Everyone wanted dispensaries to lower prices at the end of last year and the industry responded. Now everyone is worried that caregivers are not making as much as they can off of their grow.

    Were dispensaries supposed to just eat the cost of lowered prices on their own?
    I think this is more of a springtime phenomena. Indoor winter grows are expensive and a pain in the ass. Growers look forward to spring and summer so they can get their plants outside and grow big under the sun, unrestricted by the vertical and lateral confines of a flowering greenhouse and vegging room. They also hope the prices they get for their product will hold steady so they can budget the spring grow and try to offset the thousands of dollars they have spent on electricity from October through April/mid-May....plus...when mountain growers come out of hibernation they are hungry and cranky.

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