Caregivers-new law vs free meds for their patients

[TurboALLWD]

Do you, compassionate caregivers, think that the new legislation will prevent caregivers from offering their patients free meds?


I consider myself a compassionate caregiver, I give an ounce free every month to each of my patients and $200 an ounce if they need more. They don't need to buy enough to even cover my costs, I have to sell excess to Dispensaries and other patients just to cover the bills. When this goes into effect I doubt I'll be able to offer what I currently am. But hey, as much as I'd hate to offer half as much as I currently am, it would still be more than most "compassionate" caregivers.

TurboALLWD Reviewed by TurboALLWD on 04-26-2010. Caregivers-new law vs free meds for their patients Do you, compassionate caregivers, think that the new legislation will prevent caregivers from offering their patients free meds? I consider myself a compassionate caregiver, I give an ounce free every month to each of my patients and $200 an ounce if they need more. They don't need to buy enough to even cover my costs, I have to sell excess to Dispensaries and other patients just to cover the bills. When this goes into effect I doubt I'll be able to offer what I currently am. But hey, as Rating: 5

[Jord0713]

it's all going to come down to adapting and improvising and rolling with the punches. Change is always inevitable.

[RockyMtnDezL]

good topic, I dont know what to think, the plant limit per patient is too tight there is absolutely no margin for error. I hate to tell a patient I am behind schedule because of a goof! Caregiver defintion needs expansion in general, some dispensaries dont even know if a caregiver can enter or not. You are nice to give an O and 200$ for additional, but the cost of nutirents and in some cases lighting, a caregiver could charge a nominal fee, just some food for thought! Caregivers need more space to grow if you know what I mean!

[Klonzinc]

Do you, compassionate caregivers, think that the new legislation will prevent caregivers from offering their patients free meds?


I consider myself a compassionate caregiver, I give an ounce free every month to each of my patients and $200 an ounce if they need more. They don't need to buy enough to even cover my costs, I have to sell excess to Dispensaries and other patients just to cover the bills. When this goes into effect I doubt I'll be able to offer what I currently am. But hey, as much as I'd hate to offer half as much as I currently am, it would still be more than most "compassionate" caregivers.

I have been giving my patients free meds since 2002, back then I had to cover the grow costs as there were no dispensaries, now my patients still get free meds and I sell the leftovers to dispensaries, I am thinking that will come to a halt once the MAN takes it over. That will also put free meds on the halt also as I can no longer cover the costs myself. This whole law thing is unconstitutional and politically motivated by dispensaries for dispensaries......I state this with conviction, there are only 10% of dispensaries that are compassionate and in this for the right reason. This is why the Man has gotten involved.

[puntacometa]

I have been giving my patients free meds since 2002, back then I had to cover the grow costs as there were no dispensaries, now my patients still get free meds and I sell the leftovers to dispensaries, I am thinking that will come to a halt once the MAN takes it over. That will also put free meds on the halt also as I can no longer cover the costs myself. This whole law thing is unconstitutional and politically motivated by dispensaries for dispensaries......I state this with conviction, there are only 10% of dispensaries that are compassionate and in this for the right reason. This is why the Man has gotten involved.

All of my patients get free meds. I even contract with another grower to have Cannabrex made for patients who cannot smoke. I pay for this out of my own pocket and give the Cannabrex free of charge. It's just too expensive for them and I don't have time to make it here. Any extra that a patient wants to buy, they get at the same wholesale price that I get from the dispensaries who have been purchasing my overage. Without this, I wouldn't be able to afford to fire up large numbers of HID's and buy other expensive overhead items.

Most of my product overage has been monopolized by a particular dispensary anyway and after reading this law, we have arrived at a handshake agreement that will be formalized later. This dispensary has agreed to allow the same situation to my existing patients (soon-to-be former patients) and I will be compensating them for this.

I hope this new law is shitcanned as being unconstitutional. At this point, I think it's going to be in the hands of the lawyers.

[FarmerSteve]

Some day, we'll quit quoting men like Jefferson, Wahington & Henry, and start LIVING like them. If we could get 10-20 men/women who would give their time to this and be ready to take whatever comes our way, we could end this nonsense.

No struggle. no progress.

[palerider7777]

Some day, we'll quit quoting men like Jefferson, Wahington & Henry, and start LIVING like them. If we could get 10-20 men/women who would give their time to this and be ready to take whatever comes our way, we could end this nonsense.

No struggle. no progress.

don't get me started...:thumbsup:

[TurboALLWD]

All of my patients get free meds. I even contract with another grower to have Cannabrex made for patients who cannot smoke. I pay for this out of my own pocket and give the Cannabrex free of charge. It's just too expensive for them and I don't have time to make it here. Any extra that a patient wants to buy, they get at the same wholesale price that I get from the dispensaries who have been purchasing my overage. Without this, I wouldn't be able to afford to fire up large numbers of HID's and buy other expensive overhead items.

Most of my product overage has been monopolized by a particular dispensary anyway and after reading this law, we have arrived at a handshake agreement that will be formalized later. This dispensary has agreed to allow the same situation to my existing patients (soon-to-be former patients) and I will be compensating them for this.

I hope this new law is shitcanned as being unconstitutional. At this point, I think it's going to be in the hands of the lawyers.

Screw the vertical integration, the dispensary will you have you by the balls, they'll be naming the price, not you. Also, a lot of people are speculating that the new legislation doesn't say anything about dispensaries teaming up with caregivers and vice versa.

I really do not like the idea of being apart of a dispensary, when they get busted by the DEA for selling extasy or who knows what out the back door, it's you're ass as well. Too many shady Dispensaries, I agree with Klonzinc 100%. It's going to put a stop to free meds for patients with caregivers.

If we could get 10-20 men/women who would give their time to this and be ready to take whatever comes our way, we could end this nonsense.

:wtf: seriously? I'm sure theres more than that devoting their time and energy to this cause.

[puntacometa]

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Screw the vertical integration, the dispensary will you have you by the balls, they'll be naming the price, not you. Also, a lot of people are speculating that the new legislation doesn't say anything about dispensaries teaming up with caregivers and vice versa.

There are ways to deal with the dispensary/grower relationship. Basically you would contract for a certain percentage of the retail price. This ain't rocket science.

I really do not like the idea of being apart of a dispensary

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Me either.

when they get busted by the DEA for selling extasy or who knows what out the back door, it's you're ass as well.

Not if you are a separate entity growing under contract. The new law does not forbid this. Sometimes you need to read what the law doesn't say. If it doesn't specifically forbid something or some particular way of going about getting something done that could be construed as a being reasonable and making sense, then that becomes the vehicle by which one operates.

Too many shady Dispensaries, I agree with Klonzinc 100%. It's going to put a stop to free meds for patients with caregivers.

You're probably correct.

:wtf: seriously? I'm sure theres more than that devoting their time and energy to this cause.

Overall, I agree with your sentiments about this bill. Total clusterfuck........and unfortunately, what it doesn't say is going to be what sets the guidelines. I some perverse way, I guess we can thank our legislators for being clueless enough about this industry to have left some loopholes in the law a mile wide but it also puts growers right back in a nebulous legal limbo...........make your own legal interpretations based on omissions in the language and then be ready to defend them in court.