Quote Originally Posted by palerider7777
wow so what you are saying then is only mexican people get fucked with?i remember being 16 and if i was out past 8 and a cop saw me guess what news flash i got carded.
Wow, could have missed the point more completely? No, it isn't ok for the police to fuck the American citizens, tourists, or illegals!

ok now past that in what fucked up reality is it ok for the true americans get fucked with all the time but we better not mess with outsiders that come over illegally and do all kinds of dmg then jump back over the boarder and poof gone with no trace.plz explain to me why you think it's ok for people that has done nothing for this country is ok to come and go as they plz and use our tax dollar as they plz?
Hmmm... again you amaze me with your poor reading comprehension. Perhaps you should have read the previous things I said in this thread before commenting. Most of the damage you refer to can be credited to the drug war. If we legalized drugs, many of the violent Mexicans would not have a need to cross the border illigally and reek havoc.

As for tax doallars. Perhaps you should look a little deeper and consider what taxes should be used for. The fact illegals can even benifit from our tax system speaks more about taxes than illegal immigration. Perhaps if we eliminated the entitlement programs we wouldn't have these problems.

i really don't see how you are saying 2 wrongs don't make a right? do you know me as an american if i was to go get a fake id what i would be facing if i was caught?then on top of that for everything i used that fake id for i would get charged with that too.so what you are saying is it's ok for people that don't have any stock in this country to come and break our laws as they plz and no one should say anything about it?meanwhile if i was to do a 10th of what these people do i'd be under the jail for life and thats a ok with u?
For fucks sake, stop saying the first thing that comes to your mind. This is what's wrong with our nation. Instead of people realizing it isn't right that American citizens can be charged 10 times for one offense, the average American says, "well if the government is commiting this injustice agaisnt me, it's only fair they commit against my neighbor as well." What we should be saying is, "this is an injustice, and I won't stand for the government commiting this act against ANYONE.

What exactly do "these people do?" Racist a bit?

btw it's odd to see these mexicans always talking about how great mexico is and how great they are yet they want to come here, why?lets see maybe to mooch as much as they can?it's not like the guy in mexico is sitting there thinking man i wish i could get to america so i can help build it up.it's more like this im in this shit hole of a place where my own gov treats us like shit.i want to go to a place where i can stay under ground and noone knows who i am and i can get away with whatever i want.and when im caught i get slapped in the wrist and sent home.
That is where their families are, and of course they have an attachment to their homeland. They come here to make money, not because they want to fuck this country up. The only reason they are "underground" is because we fuck with them at every possible oppertunity. Perhaps many of them turn to crime because they find it increasingly difficult to find work, given this biggoted attitude and government driven persecution. Grant them amneisty, and let them work.

bottom line is if these people really wanted to come here to do good thing and to be apart of america they would do what it takes the right way.it's called earning you're way.so lets not try to get of topic and try to twist things into a race card issue that card has been beat to death already.
The "right way" as you put it, is pathetically inefficient. If their families in Mexico don't have enough food, it is a bit difficult to be patient. They want to get over here as quickly and cheaply as possible so they can start sending money back home. I fail to see what is wrong with that. Our borders should be open to all nationalities, all races, all creeds.

Illegal immigration has benefits for Americans as well. If you need to lay a floor and don't have the money to hire a professional, but are to busy or lazy to lay it yourself, you can go to Home Depot and pick up a worker for fairly cheap. Both parties benefit.

In closing, I want to stress the importance of not focusing purely on results. Everyone seems focused on what has happened, what will happen, and what is happening, but rarely do people consider the causes.

Why do we have so many illegal immigrants? Why is there so much violence on our Mexican border? Etc, etc, etc.

It is also worth noting that lax borders to our north are beneficial to drug users like ourselves. Apparently there is an influx of American citizens crossing over into Canada illegally, buying drugs, and selling them back home. When one nation has a commodity that their home country lacks it tends to promote trade. When government debilitates or worse yet, completely eliminates said trade, people are forced to *don't panic* break the law.

The Mexicans are crossing over illegally to trade their labor for money. Americans cross over to Canada to trade money for drugs. My question to you is this, "Which of these illegal border crossings is worse?"