1st grow would like some help 90watt ufo 400hps

[Dogfood]

What's up everyone. Just took a Bong hit so lets go. I went to other forums and they sucked. This one is way cooler.
This is my story. Been smoking 25 plus years off and on. I never grew weed just smoked. 3-18-2010 I woke up and decided to get my medical mj card. 3 days later I decided to GROW! (LOL WIFE WAS TRIPPPPIN).
I started out going hydro using ebb & flow on my flower side. But I found out my 400 hps would be way to close to the plants. SO now I'm using soil and scrog. Here's a few pic of my set up. A few of how I kind of had it. The Flower room that has the scrog, had the ebb & flow System. My Veg room had a drip irrigation in it. I took that out for now until I clone and veg more. I have no clue what my electric bill will be any Guess? I live in CO. My bill is already $250 avg.per month without my grow. So I bought 2 90 watt ufo's to replace the 400 hps. I got one today 4-22-2010 the other 1 I get Monday. I can't even see the ufo light over the 400's!! By Monday I was going to put both 90 UFOS under the plants to replace the 400. Tell me what you think so far.

Dogfood Reviewed by Dogfood on 04-23-2010. 1st grow would like some help 90watt ufo 400hps What's up everyone. Just took a Bong hit so lets go. I went to other forums and they sucked. This one is way cooler. This is my story. Been smoking 25 plus years off and on. I never grew weed just smoked. 3-18-2010 I woke up and decided to get my medical mj card. 3 days later I decided to GROW! (LOL WIFE WAS TRIPPPPIN). I started out going hydro using ebb & flow on my flower side. But I found out my 400 hps would be way to close to the plants. SO now I'm using soil and scrog. Rating: 5

[Dogfood]

Here are afew pics. Without the drip system in the veg room. The plants in the Flower room have been in there 12 days so far. I put them to flower one week early I think. They were both 22". Dude I just want some BUDS. The plant that I have vegging are Jedi 41, Euphoria, upstate. So far they are growing pretty well.

[Dogfood]

Pics of day 14 flower and 1st day of 90 watt ufo. In the veg room I'm using the the two bucket method. Soon I will make them self watering without a timer.

[bigtopsfinn]

Welcome to the site

Looks very nice so far :thumbsup:

I'd say keep the HPS, it's really not a lot of power. Unless your kilowatt per hour pricing is really high, it probably won't make much of an impact. Mine (400w + fans) costs about 12â?¬ per month during flowering (at 0.067 â?¬ per kwh), but then again I'm on a different continent. You should be able to find your kwh rate from the company or maybe your bill.

I'll be watching this.... Happy growing :jointsmile:

[Dogfood]

Thanks Bigtops
Monday the 400 hps will be gone and the 2-90 watt ufos will go up. The 2 plants that are flowering I really dont care about that much. I do but I dont. 1 plant is Af-Kush and the other is SBB(bubblegum). I'm looking forward to the other plants that are in veg right now. But I still want to see how well the lights work and how well they Bud these plants.

[XGR33NthumbX]

wow good setup! i wanna see the outcome on these 2 ufos !! if it gose well im 100% gonna buy some! (led ufo) soo let the ufos out! lol keep updated.

looking great!!!!!!!!:hippy:

[CovertCarpenter]

Because you might wanna use it for the flowering stage.../seriously/.. buuuuut...

...you seem to be doing mostly everything right so far, mon! Tho I have a coupla questions:

· Do you have a PH meter or test kit? (prolly, but I just had to ask)

· What do you pay per kW/h, check your local company/hydro/electric bill?

· Is there /any/ way that you could squeeze both UFOs /and/ the hps in there, perhaps by increasing your airflow?

Keep up the good work, mon!
REP+

PS: btw, I agree with your assessment--these forums /rock/!

[Dogfood]

Because you might wanna use it for the flowering stage.../seriously/.. buuuuut...

...you seem to be doing mostly everything right so far, mon! Tho I have a coupla questions:

· Do you have a PH meter or test kit? (prolly, but I just had to ask)

· What do you pay per kW/h, check your local company/hydro/electric bill?

· Is there /any/ way that you could squeeze both UFOs /and/ the hps in there, perhaps by increasing your airflow?

Keep up the good work, mon!
REP+

PS: btw, I agree with your assessment--these forums /rock/!

What's up Dude. PH I keep around 6. For the time being I will not worry about the electric bill. I hope it just don't double. I doubt it will.

I could squeeze all three lights next to each other I guess. I might even do that When my next grow happens (6 plants). Airflow is real good temps are low. I cant smell shit. The Veg room is Hotter than the Flower room.
I just cant wait for some Buds.

[bigsby]

Stick around - we want to see the outcome of your grow, especially with the LEDs. I agree that these forums are the place to be. Knowledgeable growers looking to learn from and support each other rather than starting flame wars. Run some searches in these forums and read the stickies. You will get tons of great info.

Nice setup. Very nice. I really like the use of PVC piping. I've seen it a few times but this is the clearest implementation I've seen. I'm gearing up my room and will be using your PVC build.

A couple of observations:

1. I don't think you flowered early. 22" will result in a good sized plant. It all depends on how big you want your plant to be. You are scrogging so you will want to try to size the plant to the scrog. You don't want it to outgrow the screen.

2. You should consider starting in smaller pots and plan to re-pot at least twice before you get to the 5 gallon buckets. 3 gallon buckets may be preferable although I'll let some more experienced people chime in on that. The reason for re-potting is that you want the root system to build a dense root system which they will only do in a smaller pot. Starting in over-sized buckets the roots will keep stretching and stretching wasting energy below ground rather than focusing it above ground where you want it. Also, with re-potting you get fresh soil around the roots that is both nutrient rich and aerated. Check out the noob guides stickies in these forums - Basic Growing Information and this one in particular talks about the importance of re-potting - http://boards.cannabis.com/basic-gro...-dankness.html. The stickies in these forums are invaluable.

3. If you switch to UFOs only you will probably want to do a horizontal scrog. Light penetration is an issue with the LEDs. You will get better penetration if everything is at one level. Also, you will want to move your LED much closer to the plants. They won't burn them like an HID although they will cause damage if the plant comes into contact with the light.

4. Did you research the UFOs well? They receive very mediocre reviews, especially the previous generations. Search these forums and you will find very good LED information. There as some LED wizards here who have documented what goes into a good LED setup. I am not sure what generation light you bought. You might consider returning them and getting something better suited. You should be able to replace your HID with the right LED setup.

A couple of questions:

1. What did the UFOs cost you?

2. What is the two bucket method?

3. Can you tell us about your irrigation setup?

[demoreal]

My 400 watt hps grow, a few 4 inch fans, and a 150 watt t5 for veg and moms increased my bill about 50-60$ a month. That one is in Northern California. Another grow in So Cal we use a 600 hps and a 250 t5 for vegging and some 6 inch fans and for some reason that grow increased the bill by 250$ a month. I did not get it. I think so cal is more expensive than where I am here. That bill kind of freaked me out, until harvest time. Then it was all worth it. So you might freak out. I would keep the hps.
Your grow is set up really nice.