... the few guys I know in TO who are using LEDs are using 'em to veg, mostly, and the /minimum/ is one of those 90w (90x1w) UFO thingies, in at least both major spectra.

IF you look around, you should be able to pick up one of these for like 125-140bux, from a reputable dealer off'n eBay. They retail for 150 to 195ish, tho I wouldn't pay any more than 160. I /have/ seen some 'cheapie' 50w panels that look cost-effective enough to play with, (would need 2 minimum, of course), but you need to look at true quad-band, or higher, to get good results with LEDs. Or So I Hear.

There is also a new company supplying these in my area, from a little tiny suburb town on the edge of the Known Universe, and another starting up in TO to manufacture 'em... light is getting interesting out here...

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