Pepurr Pot

[pepurr]

Here is an update on my humble grow.

They seem to be doing much better now. I have been giving them 24 hours a day of 6500K. They started going 24 hrs, 2 days ago.

The plant in the metal coffee can is doing the best. Seems to be growing twice as fast as the other. I can only guess as to why. Here is my guess:

1. Genetics
2. It was stressed less than the other during transplant.
3. One is male, the other female.

I sure hope they are both female. Hope in one hand and poop in the other, you know.

These came from a bunch of mixed seeds from bags I had bought in the past. I have no clue as to the strain. I recon they will have to grow more before that can be discerned.

[CovertCarpenter]

...but if you want a higher chance of 'em both turning out female, I'd switch 'em immediately to 18on/6off (total darkness for that 6, btw)... the 'dark' time is necessary for root development (so I've heard), and less stress on the plant means less reason to 'turn male'... (also, so I've heard)...

If you want to give the lil' ones the max play period you can, without stressing 'em too much, you could go 20on/4off, which still gives 'em a nice little nap.

I'm a big believer in CFLs for nifty cheapie growing setups. They can be had /almost/ anywhere, are available in the middle of the night, and have a decent lumens-to-watts ratio (tho a good High Output T-5 will smoke 'em {I just bought a SunMaster T5HO 4', for 39.95 from my dear friends at Grown Hydro in downtown TO that puts out 5022lumens in/@ 6400k})...

Another nice thing about the CFL concept is that you can pack 'em in quite tight, or use cheapie things as decent reflectors. I've used everything from catering trays to large Stainless Steel mixing bowls, with good effect. I particularly recommend the SSmb concept, cuz if you /lightly/ scuff 'em, the net reflector result to the plant is like the plant being in a dentist's chair, only moreso I've seen some of my seedlings with their fan leaves up at 45 to 60 degree angles, leaping to the light... :jumphappy:

The same way you see some growers using both MH and HPS at the same time throughout the same grow, or using dual-arc bulbs for the same effect...

...you could be doing with alla your humble CFLs... so, as long as you have all the 6500k near there, the 2700k will pad the spectrum, and your plants should be happier. Get the lights as close as you can to the lil' rascals, tho. CFLs' main selling point is that they run nearly cold, and so you can get 'em to within 1-4 inches of the plant(s). As long as you can put your hand 'there' all day (only feeling a little warm), your plants will be happy 'there'. Try and get your 'daytime' temp to around 78f, though they won't quibble if it goes up to 82-83 as long as there's a bit of airflow.

If you really wanna hammer 'em good in flowering time, pick up a six-pack of 26w/100w equiv. GE 2700k 1750lumen puppies [only 19.97 up here at my local W@llM4rt]*, and replace all bulbs (and pack as many more in as you can) with the 2700k warm white, for 12on/12off (and the 12off in flowering HAS to be uninterrupted! If you must look at your 'garden' in 'nighttime', use a green bulb so that they don't notice...)...

Hope this helps!

(c)C :chainsaw:

*I'm planning on doing this at bloom time myself, with 12x2700k/26w hung around the edges of my garden whilst my 600w HPS pounds 'em from just above. I figger the extra lumens 'round the corners won't hurt, and the power cost is only 312w for 21000 extra 'warm' /red/ lumensssszzzz... mmmmm... lumenss...aahrghahghahargahrahg.... :smokin:

[raizla]

All the bagseed grows I've seen have turned out really great. It's all in how you take care of your plants. I'll 2nd CovertCarpenter's recommendation for the HO T5's. I'm doing my whole grow with T5's and I'm very pleased with the results so far.

[pepurr]

Thinks for all of your helpful advise guys. :thumbsup:

I sure would love to get all them High Output T-5's and stuff. Can't afford it though. Being disabled, I can barely afford the CFL's. Stupid SSD takes forever to kick in, so till then I got to make it on the super cheep. I'm looking around thrift stores now to find something for a couple $ to screw my CFL's into. I have an idea about that. :dance:

I'm looking for cheep table lamps. When I get them (cheep ones), I am going to take them apart. Then I can use the wires and fixtures, and throw out the rest. I will plug them into a power strip.

At this time the lil raskels are under 2 6500K CFL's. I got 2 2700K CFL's gathering dust because of a lack of anything to plug them into. I think I can get away with using only 2 bulbs for now, but in a short time they will have to have more. Lucky I can get the CFL's a few at a time, as I need them.

This can be an interesting (forced) experiment. To see how cheaply I can grow some dank bud. So far I have about $10 in it. $3 for potting soil and $7 for lights.

Through out this grow, I'll keep track of how much money I spend on it. Then when harvest time comes, we can check out how many dollars per ounce it is. :baggy: Hopefully dollars per ounce. It could turn out dollars per gram cause I don't even get a full ounce. Lord willing, that won't be the case.

I know I am not the only one who is short on cash. I'll take pic's of what I come up with 'doing it on the cheep'. :weedpoke:

[Shovelhandle]

Best of luck with getting your SSDI and hopefully a nice retroactive check.

Keep reading some of the other indoor grows here. Folks are doing wonderful, successful harvest with little more than what you've started with.

Shov

[pepurr]

I went to the hardware store and found some nifty light sockets that can plug into an outlet. I bought 2 of them for $4.90.

I already had a power strip so I screwed some CFL's into the sockets, then plugged them into the power strip. I think the power strip can hold one more. All I need to do now is make a reflector and find that darn extension cord. I know it's around here somewhere.

If you look at the attached pictures you can see what it looks like. After it is all set up I'll post a picture of the results.

$15.00 into the 'grow it on the cheep'.

[LetsSeeYa]

I went to the hardware store and found some nifty light sockets that can plug into an outlet. I bought 2 of them for $4.90.

I already had a power strip so I screwed some CFL's into the sockets, then plugged them into the power strip. I think the power strip can hold one more. All I need to do now is make a reflector and find that darn extension cord. I know it's around here somewhere.

If you look at the attached pictures you can see what it looks like. After it is all set up I'll post a picture of the results.

$15.00 into the 'grow it on the cheep'.

Thats great, but you will need more and il give you a cheaper way of putting a great light tighter:thumbsup: with pis

At wally mart they have hook lights. Get 1 and make sure its the small, not the large one. They are 7.99, then 4 26w cfl's. Now, get 3 y splitters. The reflector on the hook light slides off, then you put a y splitter in. Then you put 1 y splitter in each of the sockets of the first splitter. This gives you a light with a lot of watts. I used 11 bulbs, with 3 lights using different light spectrum's, not counting the lamp i sit near them. And by cutting the end and a space in the middle of a beer can like a window will work as a shade that fits a cfl perfect. But anyway you will want 250watts to get buds you will like. But its cheap. y splitters are 4 bucks. light 8.00. 4 cfls are different prices, as i bought 2 bulbs for 7.99 that took a month, the next month i bought 2 more. After ya got one set-up it would be 7,000 lumen w/26watters
and 104watts. Its recommended to have 5,000 lumen's per sq ft for best results. I got all my stuff as i needed it, so it was little to start up. I even used the same kinda soil, which is not advised. Problem is that every water, activates the nutes, which can burn the plant. Just keep er on the dry side:thumbsup:Oh and dont add nutes, because thats what i noticed that everyone who used them had problems. I didn't use any, till now but im re vegging them to bonsai. Look at my 10 indoor grow in my sig and you will have cheap step by step and you can avoid my mistakes:jointsmile:

I had a cash issue so i bought stuff little at a time. I used 279wattts at the end. But it was a killer grow. I got better quality weed and the yield was great.

Here is a couple of pics, cuz after i read this im not sure its very clear, or too clear.lol I like to put them in small pots, cuz when the roots get stretched out, the top growth comes on. Then i re pot, bigger an bigger. But this is out side, im not sure why i didn't as much indoors.

Here is a cheap set up. If ya can white paint works better then tin foil, but when i started, i used it too. But i could tell the difference when i switched.

Il be back man, good luck :rasta:

[pepurr]

That's a sweet set-up. I like the idea. Only problem is, for the hook light and the 3 'Y' splitters, we're talking $20.00. I'll maybe able to do it a little later.

If you read my other posts you will know, I don't have much money. Really, I am so poor, I can't even pay attention. So for me right now, $20 is a lot of money. I got to get equipment really, really cheep. I am scrounging what I can find around the house, and what I can borrow.

I might be able to put together a cool set-up like that. I'll have to get the stuff little by little, but that is not a problem. Like I said before, I can get stuff as my raskels grow. Just hope I can keep up.

Keep the ideas coming though. I get all kinds of ideas from you guys, and it helps.

Hate being so cheep. I'm not used to it. I'm used to getting just about anything I want, when I want.
(:twocents: <====How much money I got.)

[LetsSeeYa]

That's a sweet set-up. I like the idea. Only problem is, for the hook light and the 3 'Y' splitters, we're talking $20.00. I'll maybe able to do it a little later.

If you read my other posts you will know, I don't have much money. Really, I am so poor, I can't even pay attention. So for me right now, $20 is a lot of money. I got to get equipment really, really cheep. I am scrounging what I can find around the house, and what I can borrow.

I might be able to put together a cool set-up like that. I'll have to get the stuff little by little, but that is not a problem. Like I said before, I can get stuff as my raskels grow. Just hope I can keep up.

Keep the ideas coming though. I get all kinds of ideas from you guys, and it helps.

Hate being so cheep. I'm not used to it. I'm used to getting just about anything I want, when I want.
(:twocents: <====How much money I got.)

No, no i understand what your saying. Your doing just what i did and in the end, thats what i have. I was buying 2 cfl's a month till i had enough and you only need 2 to get your plant started. The next month i got the hook light for 8 bucks at wally world, with 3 y splitters for 5 bucks. So 13 bucks, now just add 4 cfl's and you got a killer light. You wont need them till next month, but just pick up a piece here an there. I did it the same way man, but now i dont pay for weed:hippy:

:rasta:

[Shovelhandle]

I bought a four lamp 4' T5 HO luminaire with lamps for $40 on ebay (new in the box). So, save your coins and keep your eyes open for a good deal.

Shov