you hit the buttons challenging us...read your first post!

"first of all why would you want to pay five times more for the light then you have two. a 1000w hps runs the same electric as a 1000w led. think about it. if your cant afford to cool your room then you def cant afford those lights because thats the money you would be saving(just the power of the cooling system. the power company charges by the kilawot hour(1000w per hour) at about .29 cent on a huge sliding scale. they cant tell if it hps led a hair dryer washing machine etc."

i don't run 1000 watts of LED i replaced 1000w of HPS with 450w of LED..and i can afford to do whatever i like...when i want...but that doesn't mean i am not going to keep wasting energy and filling up landfills with HPS bulbs that have mercury and leach into our water supplies!

don't get touchey..you started this...take your medicine and mellow out..we are stating facts from our own personal grows...not the smoke and mirrors..time lapse photography comments...so watch it! back off eat your crow and learn! i was taught by a breeder who has world famous strains not some pollen chucker! so its no accident that i could grasp the value of learning this new technology and spent almost a year looking before i found a LED light that i thought would work..i knew i cold not grab any UFO off ebay trying to buy the cheapest thing i could find!

you started it with your kidding and thimbs down so yes it has been handed to you that LEDs are a viable light to grow and flower with from all of the responses...i don't see anyone with you but the mouse in your pocket!

ok cliffcliff i am in China right now as we speak i had to leave my grow for a friend to take care of...i'm a little anal or alot about the frmula i use and am willing to smoke but being out of country i wanted the simplest formula possible using exactly the one you mention and i was just told today(my friend is very conservative with estimates) that i should expect about 350g of meds from this run based in what he sees....so this is basically a very unattended grow of mine and i feel those are worwhile results .78 gr/watt ...and i will continue to strive for better yields topping 1gr/watt and i feel once i get it dialed completely then there isn't an HPS thaqt will keep up with LED performance...and 1 more thing...my meds are incredibly much stronger than HPS as LED hits the main wavelenght for creating photosynthesis making indoor weed as powerful as outdoors if not more so with the controls you have indoors. now pull up a seat and read and you will be better off sometimes to keep your mouth shut and learn at a distance than jump in something you have no experience! i'm not flaming you but fools rush their opinion and wise men listen and learn before they open they're mouths! take that as constructive criticism...not an insult! please...we are all here to learn from each other! :hippy: