the 1/2 life is 25,000 hours thats about 5 years of 12/12!

did you pay $90 fpr your HPS 1000w bulb and ballast?

5 X 90 is $450....according to your math thats what your lights cost!

x3 = S1350 for 3 lights one one tray!

if your read about 600 plus of my posts you would know that as it is stated in many places....but you pop off like you are the worlds authority...didn't expect to have it handed to ya did ya?

so making money makes a person lazy...well speak for yourself!

why did you not come on with a question if the first place instead of telling growers who are using LEDs to successfully flower and tell us what we cannot do and "time lapse photography"....dude you are barking up the wrong tree...some of these folks built there own lights...such as weezard...dreaded hermie...and one person you did not hear from was old mac...he's forgotten more than you'll ever know with your attitude in the beginnig! so you insult our intelligence! as i said do what i do from a chair an see how good you can do....you'd be stting in corner crying thinking your life is over....if money made you lazy then a personal challenge such as my spinal cord injury would be the end of someone like you with your dumb ass attitude!

now if you want to learn from all of us...we are more than happy to share how we got our results from growing with LED...do you think i yarded 2 1000 watt digitals and Hort eyes out from my room because i am not getting my stated results???

what do i stand to gain by lying??? in anything you do if you have no ethics or core values you will soon be found out and all will ignore you and tell you to go away....i value the friends i have made and will do anything to help them....you might ask a that question and see who chimes in?

so with all that said...i am growing with 900 watts af LED in my flower...less that 1/2 of the power i used previously and getting similar results to my HPS...if i was to put equal wattages over each tray i would still beat HPS as i have no heating issues and do not have to run and AC for cooling....yes LED's can be replaced if burnt out but usually it from hitting an exposed LED that causes it to go out not burn out..so you solder a new one in or bridge the gap with copper wire completeing the circuit for the rest to work!

the reason most say it does not work is because inferior systems have been used...today as bigsby stated earlier...info of just 2 years ago is obsolete as technology is changing rapidly! you are 29 which is still wet behind the ears...i don't care what the ratio of growers is in your neighbor hood is...facts are LEDs work and they are here to stay and they will only get better! mine are 3w diodes so have any of your expert growers used my light...its designed for commerciall greenhouses and to be hung 13 ft above the plants giving 100 sq feet of coverage....now i know it would never work in flower at that height but that should give you an idea of the power of LEDs and how far they have come...not insulting us and our intelligence. i have a Bachelor of science degreee in business and minor in geography so i can figure out what works and what doesnt...and if did not get my results i would not be here to share!

you do have some balls showing back up after getting blasted so hats off to for that!

if you want to learn more then be humble....people here will bend over backwards to anyone asking for help in a civilized manner!

peace!:hippy: