i bought the first ones off of ebay and eventually contacted the mfr and setup an account for me and some friends and it sort of snowballed and basically i get them and if anyone wants them i provide them for a fraction of what you will spend in a grow shop..its more of a hobby to me to help a fellow grower than to see them get hosed with A.inferior product B.too high of prices being charged at retail level. for example a grow shop near me sells the UFO for $400..i am like who would pay $400 for that POS..and they sell them...i know i would not be happy if paid that kind of money...so then it makes it very unaffordable and unattractive to try LED's...so my goal is to keep em affordable for all of us...i saw my same light on ebay selling at $659 the other day so if you would like more info just skype me or yahoo...i'll be happy to share info...but as i said above i work for no one and i love the quality of my meds since growing with LED's :jointsmile:

i will have some pics of the latest harvest this friday when i return stateside

i will also have one grow midstream at about 28days and a new tray starting with plants currently in veg...i will be doing a test run on House & Garden Van de Swaan nutrients as i have heard impressive things from others close to me with higher yields and healthier plants. So i wanted to give their fromula a run with the LED's...but it is very ignorant for Walter to sign in with 1 post telling me what i cannot do when he has no experience or lacks the insight to do some research of others like Dreaded Hermie shared in another thread about growers in Holland and Spain on European boards where tests have been done with 1000w of LED and 1000w of HID and the LED outproduced the HID...i get approx the same with less than 1/2 of the power...450w of LED per tray and 900w total in my flower room, let alone cost of cooling the heat created by 1000w HIDs...grow side has 350w of LED:smokin: