hey Walter~before you speak you should look at my log...no mirrors it all the real deal....folks have been watching my grows for the past 2 months and i work for no one...i have enough money to last me a life time twice over...so before you come on with your 1 post you should read a little...it is uninformed people like you that think you know everything...the person asked a question and i answered....have you grown with shitty LED's? i did my research before i purchased and i did not buy everything at once...i started slowly with converting my veg side to beat heat issues i encountered with MH and summer...when i saw how well the plants grew i tested some in flower and found they performed quite nicely and i yarded out 2 1000w CAP Nextgen digital ballasts, used hortilux bulbs and a complete vented system...i got tired of high energy bills when i was running an AC all winter long to hold temps down when it was 20f outside...so your statement could not be farther from the truth. If i was out to sell folks i would be on every forum on the internet...i like this place and this is the only place i post my grow! peace out! :hippy: