Quote Originally Posted by pepurr
The belief in God is not illogical. What is illogical is the way humans have portrayed God. The attributes we have given God.

So is believing in God illogical? I think not. What is illogical is the manner in which we believe in God. :hippy:
Perhaps I should have said belief in religion's god is illogical.

Quote Originally Posted by pepurr
Through out human history we have been mostly living patriarchal, and less often matriarchal, groups. These arrangements must have had survival value in our remote past. When thinkers, who were contemplating the nature of the world around them, began to have thoughts of a higher power, they thought in terms of male and female. I doubt there was anything malicious about it. It just seemed logical to them at the time.
I agree with your assessment of how the one god came to be though of as masculine. Pantheon gods had both male and female attributes, though the top dog was most always a male figure.

I'll got a step further. When humans began to contemplate higher being(s), they logically assigned human attributes. The human race has "created" god(s), not the other way around.

Quote Originally Posted by JohnnyZ
The question now is, is it possible to give that force a name? Something we don't understand? Do we even comprehend perfection?
Pepurr is right about our innate need to name things. I use the name Tao, others use Buddha, Jesus, Krishna, Rha, Mohammad, etc.

I believe much as perpurr that there is a god that is everything, including ourselves. I do not believe in a personal god that cares or responds to anything in a human way.

We can't even really comprehend the sheer numbers of galaxies in our observable universe. To understand "god" one must first understand the universe. In that respect, science is doing more to define what god is than religion that only seeks to solidify and propagate a self-contained image of god who "wants" you to behave in certain ways (what ways depend on the religion) and believe in certain things (again depending on the religion).