Quote Originally Posted by JohnnyZ
A product of the human mind meaning that we, as individuals or societies or religions, decide what is rational. It's make-believe is what I'm trying to say.
I agree with you here. All those things are a product of the human mind. The genesis was the very group behavior that made homo sapiens so successful when plainly outgunned by the competition.

Quote Originally Posted by JohnnyZ
You can't go blaming everything on nature dude. There is also nurture to be accounted for. We are a combination of who we want to be and what we are shaped to be. Your past never leaves you.
Nurture isn't absolute either. A study of twins that were separated for adoption found that the twins developed very similar personality traits even under much different environments.

Also a negative environment can motivate a person to overcome and "succeed" despite that person's upbringing. Similarly, a person raised with love, encouragement, and all the breaks can still grow up to be a serious jerk. Just saying.