If 420 is legalized 100% in november...

[ThunderKidUrkle]

what a joke. Lets call "legalization" what it really is..."control and regulation of Medical Marijuana."

If this bill passes it is going to make a mockery of what we have been doing for over 15 years in California. It is not about recreational use, its about helping those who need it.

The people pushing this bill are the ones who will profit from it initially...the big dispensaries. So read the bill completely...and think about who this really benefits. It even clearly states that localities that do not want distribution centers...will not have it...thus, driving business to Oakland...RICHARD LEE...and the big dispensaries.

Follow the dollar people. Follow the dollar.:jointsmile:

I'm a medical marijuana patient and grow in a 3x3 space and I am NOT FOR LEGALIZATION!!!! VOTE NO!!!! FUCK RICHARD LEE!!! Seriously folks I have friends that are big in the med game and that's all this bill is about!!!! Richard Lee and his cohorts want to have EVERYBODY buy off them!!! Sure you'll have a 5x5 area but for how long??? Hope you don't live by a school! The thing that rang out the loudest for me was when I heard JACK HERER say "THIS BILL IS NOT FOR THE PEOPLE" and he said to vote NO on this bill and he fought for legalization his whole life. This bill is just going to take "Medical Marijuana" away from the people and give it to BIG BUSINESS and say FUCK YOU to all the counties that have supplied our smoke all these years and lost loved ones over and you expect us all to just say "Yea take our business and way of life away from us it's ok" FUCK THAT!!!!! VOTE NO! VOTE NO! VOTE NO! I know that NONE of my friends are voting yes and I have a lot of friends that smoke and grow for themselves I suggest you all do the same!!!! ITS LEGAL ALREADY IN CALI!!!!!!! The dispensaries are being taxed already the state has been getting millions in taxes over the last year so really people who is this going to benefit??? It's the rich and that's all!!!! Things will look all fine and dandy until new bills get put into play putting regulations on licenses and renewal fee's for commercial grows. Counties will say you have to make "X Amount" each year to qualify easily tossing tons of people out of picture from growers to customers. They hate seeing the common man able to make a decent living supplying the clubs and that's what this is about and the way the economy is that's ALL some of us have for a income.... :rastasmoke:

[Ub3rB0ng]

I'm a medical marijuana patient and grow in a 3x3 space and I am NOT FOR LEGALIZATION!!!! VOTE NO!!!! FUCK RICHARD LEE!!! Seriously folks I have friends that are big in the med game and that's all this bill is about!!!! Richard Lee and his cohorts want to have EVERYBODY buy off them!!! Sure you'll have a 5x5 area but for how long??? Hope you don't live by a school! The thing that rang out the loudest for me was when I heard JACK HERER say "THIS BILL IS NOT FOR THE PEOPLE" and he said to vote NO on this bill and he fought for legalization his whole life. This bill is just going to take "Medical Marijuana" away from the people and give it to BIG BUSINESS and say FUCK YOU to all the counties that have supplied our smoke all these years and lost loved ones over and you expect us all to just say "Yea take our business and way of life away from us it's ok" FUCK THAT!!!!! VOTE NO! VOTE NO! VOTE NO! I know that NONE of my friends are voting yes and I have a lot of friends that smoke and grow for themselves I suggest you all do the same!!!! ITS LEGAL ALREADY IN CALI!!!!!!! The dispensaries are being taxed already the state has been getting millions in taxes over the last year so really people who is this going to benefit??? It's the rich and that's all!!!! Things will look all fine and dandy until new bills get put into play putting regulations on licenses and renewal fee's for commercial grows. Counties will say you have to make "X Amount" each year to qualify easily tossing tons of people out of picture from growers to customers. They hate seeing the common man able to make a decent living supplying the clubs and that's what this is about and the way the economy is that's ALL some of us have for a income.... :rastasmoke:

Heh you probably arent even old enough to vote so shutup :jointsmile:

[middieman440]

i said it many times wether its legal or not im still gonna keep doing what im doing,growing n smoking,soooooo yummmmmy and fun.but yeah the whole med pot stuff is already ruined and alot of people are becoming med patients just to make money by selling but being somewhat protected,

all a bunch of bs to me.

so ima roll one up and take about 10 puff's

[boaz]

this bill will have no effect on Prop 215 . . . right? it leaves the power to the counties to move above and beyond 215 and make it legal for all adults without the need for medical documentation if they want to. or not. each county can do nothing, if this passes, but this still would leave 215 as it is now in that county. right? I don't see the problem.

Is that true that Jack Herer was against it?? I would love to hear more, even tho I complete support the bill. i am a former card carrying Cali med user but want to be able to be just a legal adult non documented med user when I move back out there. the whole concept of "patients lists" needs to be vaporized. :twocents:


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[boaz]

^ btw, when I said "non documented" I meant without a current doctors rec and/or cards and not being on any current lists or databases, etc. I was not actually referring to citizenship or anything. I was born in Cali. just to clarify. :stoned:

[420amsdude]

I really like the idea of making humbolt like the napa valley for bud tourists. imp: Can you imagine visting each herb shop and trying a small sample and picking up a bud or two of the ones you really like. :stoned: I'd be on the first flight.

one word. AMSTERDAM!

[Lanietheberner]

Ok, here what I see....

Lots of people starting to grow, and they will go and buy a big bag off seeds. Then some bozo @1 mile away from you has a male (which is inevetable) which manages to screw up your crop.... I really enjoy the exploding seeds, reminds me of the late 1960's (lol!!).

Try to sell some seeded product, and people will laugh at you!

Growing good quality product is not that easy, and the more that the state get's involved the more screwed up it will be.

I don't want this to pass as there are way tooooo many unknowns.

[Joshish]

Yeah, that figures Nobody wants MJ legalized, The status quo where the cops make money off of innocent non-violent citizens is way better than tax and regulation, Pull your heads out our of your ass and vote yes, Of course there will be chaos for the first 5 years or so but the industry will inevitably work itself out, Anyone who does not want cannabis legalized should just roll over and do everything else our government tells us is right, Anyone who does not want cannabis legal obviously has no other marketable skill which they can fall back on, legalize it and only the strong will survive, Learn to swim! As for the 80% price drop, that's pure speculation meant to scare growers into voting no, A yes vote is more symbolic than a no vote, Keep supporting those cartels you morons!

[OhNoYaDont]

I personally hope it doesn't pass.

Why would it be a good thing to have the gov't tax and control even more than they do now? What ever happened to free enterprize, captialism, free market ... hell FREEDOM in general?

25 square feet ... how big is that? five by five ... a closet. One ounce? Hell, most people can't grow an ounce a month in 5x5 spot ... that is a government monopoly, and if you get caught growing enough for you and spouse ... and it takes more than a closet to do that, you can go to jail? Why? Because you are getting into the govenments purse.

It's not legalization. It's control.

Vote no.

[Joshish]

Of course it's gonna be taxed you idiots, what isn't taxed$ You pay taxes on your property, on your beer, on your clothes and everything else you buy, why should cannabis be any different$ The point is, it's a start, and if you vote no you're giving another one to the government fascists anyways, GEEZ! The law can be ammended later anyways also, does anybody have a real reason why cannabis should be ILLEGAL or is it all personal profit\gain motives$ Just wondering<