hb10-1284 set to be voted on tomorrow

[HighPopalorum]

This serves no purpose other than to protect select dispensaries, and it has no business being in this bill.

Safety, inspection, and standards protect consumers too.

[ColoradoCareMMJ]

Safety, inspection, and standards protect consumers too.

Whats next... regulating cannabanoid profiles? I can already hear them crying how the cannabis we have is only intended to get you "high" and under new law dispensaries can only dispense cannabis with THC levels under 10%

[Vancefish]

Whats next... regulating cannabanoid profiles? I can already hear them crying how the cannabis we have is only intended to get you "high" and under new law dispensaries can only dispense cannabis with THC levels under 10%

I hate to say it buy I think your likely correct. Our government loves to stick their noses where they don't belong. Plus many years ago, when they were studying our beloved plant. My step grandfather leased a chunk of his Kentucky horse farm to the government to grow "test" MJ. They restricted their own grow-able plants to 3.5% strains(at least it's what they told him!). However if even slightly true, you know it's likely to come up. They limited it before, why not again. Plus I think Mexican brick would still qualify.:wtf:

Glad to hear you didn't join that lobby too! I never thought you did, just good to hear it!:thumbsup:

As for my concerns I'd like to re-aim my statements from before a little.

Lets say,.. some 50 year old church going women gets cancer(god forbid). Anyway her son, after a round of Chemo, introduces her to MMJ. She finds it's relief soothing. So she gets her recomendation.

Now, with a green thumb, three plants, and her knowledgeable son. She grows three large productive plants. Without any idea as to how much she'll actually end up with, she finishes strong! Right on Grandma!! :thumbsup:

So after drying, she finds she has twenty ounces. Yet she's only allowed two!:wtf4:

What can she LEGALLY do with the excess, under this new law??

She has NEVER broken the law as far as she is concerned, she has no pot head friends to give or sell it to, and now under the new law(if passed) she can't even sell it to the stores AUTHORIZED to sell the stuff!

If she's caught with it she gets to be extra tax income to the government and private prisons too!

This is the same part of this law that will screw all the small guys.

Sure am glad this bill is here, to protect the patients! Way to go!!

[HighPopalorum]

I don't think that would be a good idea, but you must admit that in every other medicine the levels of active ingredients are regulated, and those levels are required to be on the label. When I take two Tylenol, I know I'm getting 1000 mg of acetaminophen. I wish I knew the same about the medicine I buy from dispensaries.

[Vancefish]

I don't think that would be a good idea, but you must admit that in every other medicine the levels of active ingredients are regulated, and those levels are required to be on the label. When I take two Tylenol, I know I'm getting 1000 mg of acetaminophen. I wish I knew the same about the medicine I buy from dispensaries.

Cannibanoids(<-sp??) consist of over 300 chemicals, from those, during heating, there is a chemical reaction which converts those 300+ interacting chemicals into well over 2000+ different chemicals. Each strain has a differing signature of cannibinoids, which can cause differing effects. Because it is a VERY complex composure of chemicals, composed of and created by ONLY a plants naturally produced chemicals reacting with each other. It has never been correctly, synthetically reproduced.

THUS, even with MASSIVE, expensive studies done my MANY government agencies and college labs. They still can't tell you exactly what is in your MMJ. They can get some information, and THC percentages. However when you get down to brass tax. They can not tell you what your getting, or how, or why, it'll effect you.

It is currently estimated that many of our "better" strains can achieve 18-30%(might just be a claim at 30%). However even if 18% is what I often buy. I do not want to be limited to 10%!

If we give an inch they WILL take a mile. So, I believe we need to stop this over regulation before they force it (and more) down our throats.

[Vancefish]

I don't think that would be a good idea, but you must admit that in every other medicine the levels of active ingredients are regulated, and those levels are required to be on the label. When I take two Tylenol, I know I'm getting 1000 mg of acetaminophen. I wish I knew the same about the medicine I buy from dispensaries.

I should have added. MOST of our legal drugs DO NOT say what is contained in them. They have the product name and the mg dosage per pill. However most of those drugs (prescribed by doctors answering to drug companies) have rarely, barely, or incorrectly been tested. They are composed of who knows what? Plus MANY often have side effects worse then the condition it MIGHT cure.

MJ has been growing and been smoked by BILLIONS of people over millennia. Thus far, not one proven death, and side effects are temporary!

Take that Clairion!!

[HighPopalorum]

Yeah.. so what would be wrong with a law that says dispensaries must have their medicine tested by a lab for THC content and certified free of pests and mold? What would be wrong with the Division of Weights and measures coming in and checking their scales for honesty, as they do in every other business that sells by weight? All regulation has costs and benefits; we should concentrate on choosing the right regulations rather than refuse to "give them an inch." In my opinion, the right regulations are those that benefit the consumer with more knowledge, protect the consumer from poisons and impurities, and prevent a retailer from misrepresenting his product or lying to his customers.

[Vancefish]

Yeah.. so what would be wrong with a law that says dispensaries must have their medicine tested by a lab for THC content and certified free of pests and mold? What would be wrong with the Division of Weights and measures coming in and checking their scales for honesty, as they do in every other business that sells by weight? All regulation has costs and benefits; we should concentrate on choosing the right regulations rather than refuse to "give them an inch." In my opinion, the right regulations are those that benefit the consumer with more knowledge, protect the consumer from poisons and impurities, and prevent a retailer from misrepresenting his product or lying to his customers.

I think that a law, forcing a dispensary to have it tested, is wrong! However I also think if a dispensary WANTS to do that, they should. If people want that, they would vote with their dollar. By going to that dispensary. If everyone wanted that, all the other dispensaries would be forced through customer pressure to do it. However forcing people to conform to your desires is not right. So forcing me to spend money on a service I don't want is also wrong. (see anti-forced federal health care suit filed last week by 13 states. It's against the 10th constitutional amendment!)

Those same people would also get to pay an extra fee to have that service provided BTW:thumbsup:.

[palerider7777]

Just as an FYI, most consumable products (alcohol, medicine, food, for example) actually travel through very strictly-regulated supply chains. It's true that most other businesses can purchase stock from anywhere, but most other businesses similar to dispensaries can only purchase from a small group of licensed vendors. In the case of beer and alcohol, only from a distributor, which number about two dozen in this state. If I was making beer in my basement, I couldn't put it in a backpack and sell it to the local liquor store; those days are long gone.... and that option is about to be closed to commercial growers as well.

just an fyi those products are legal on the fed lvl as well so...:thumbsup:

also just because it's a law does'nt mean it's right....

[palerider7777]

I don't think that would be a good idea, but you must admit that in every other medicine the levels of active ingredients are regulated, and those levels are required to be on the label. When I take two Tylenol, I know I'm getting 1000 mg of acetaminophen. I wish I knew the same about the medicine I buy from dispensaries.

wow,you are right it is regulated you know why? because too much aceteminophen will KILL YOU.i know you want to be all knowing but plz quit trying to mix apples and oranges here.