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    #71
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    hb10-1284 set to be voted on tomorrow

    Quote Originally Posted by palerider7777
    the reason people throw around names like glen beck and others.is because people have been brain washed into thinking with blinders on.
    Wow, even that sounds like Glenn Beck! Sensational bullshit with no basis in reality.

    Nice try though. People mention Glenn Beck because he's a fucking pandering nutjob. And he convinces people who can't think for themselves (wink, wink) of preposterous ideas.

    The problem in this country is not any one individual, its the system. It doesn't work. Our government has proven that it is actually run by lobbyists, and "for the people" should read as "for the corporations".

    On another note, has anyone seen John Stewart do Glenn Beck? I about shit my pants the other night I was laughing so hard!
    Brown-eyed women and red grenadine...
    :s4::s4::s4:

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    #72
    Senior Member

    hb10-1284 set to be voted on tomorrow

    Quote Originally Posted by lampost
    Wow, even that sounds like Glenn Beck! Sensational bullshit with no basis in reality.

    Nice try though. People mention Glenn Beck because he's a fucking pandering nutjob. And he convinces people who can't think for themselves (wink, wink) of preposterous ideas.

    The problem in this country is not any one individual, its the system. It doesn't work. Our government has proven that it is actually run by lobbyists, and "for the people" should read as "for the corporations".

    On another note, has anyone seen John Stewart do Glenn Beck? I about shit my pants the other night I was laughing so hard!
    blah blah blah same ole shit......

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    #73
    Senior Member

    hb10-1284 set to be voted on tomorrow

    Quote Originally Posted by lampost
    On another note, has anyone seen John Stewart do Glenn Beck? I about shit my pants the other night I was laughing so hard!
    Yeah that was good and when he pulled out the chalkboard i lost it ....:jointsmile::jointsmile:

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    #74
    Member

    hb10-1284 set to be voted on tomorrow

    I like your stance!

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    #75
    Senior Member

    hb10-1284 set to be voted on tomorrow

    Listen, if your a grower hoping to move surplus to dispensaries, all you have to do is one of two things.

    1) Set up an LLC.

    -or-

    2) Become an "employee" for the dispensary.


    Remember 99% of the law is interpretation.... :jointsmile::jointsmile:

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    #76
    Senior Member

    hb10-1284 set to be voted on tomorrow

    Quote Originally Posted by ColoradoCareMMJ
    Listen, if your a grower hoping to move surplus to dispensaries, all you have to do is one of two things.

    1) Set up an LLC.

    -or-

    2) Become an "employee" for the dispensary.


    Remember 99% of the law is interpretation.... :jointsmile::jointsmile:
    Only two issues I have with that Bryan are,.. I don't have $5000 to pay the state, let alone more to buy the security system with cameras (in MY house).

    Second issue I have with the current bill is. Let's say I'm your "employee" (just as an example). I grow the maximum I can fit (12 plants in flower). Now as YOUR employee, growing in MY house. The state gets to just "drop by" and inspect MY house(your grow??) whenever they feel like it, because as far as they are concerned MY grow is YOUR property. By growing for you in my house. The state reserves the ability to search MY house whenever they feel the need.

    Plus the law is currently unclear in one other area. It says any used paraphernalia on the property will constitute shutting the operation down. So as your employee, and my property being part of your grow operation. I can't legally medicate in MY house!

    Then after I give my patients their meds. I'll be able to give you only the remainder, for you to sell. I'm still unclear as to what kind of yield I'll get.

    Basically I think giving up my right to privacy, JUST so I can continue my small time operation. Is not right.

    EVERY grower of their own meds, NEEDS the ability to legally dispose of excess meds! As I said before, with proper care of my plants, I COULD produce 12 pounds from just three plants(although I don't plan to do that:jointsmile I still don't think the state should tell YOU where to get the meds. By being allowed to buy from ANYONE, as you can in most other businesses. YOU would have greater variety. Persons who are unable to work, AND do grow their own, could make a couple extra dollars by helping grow a little extra here and there.

    The way it is being written now. I have to sign away my rights to privacy(in my own home). Become an employee of a dispensary (essentially signing my grow over to you). Install a security system with cameras(in my house). PLUS, if I medicate IN MY HOUSE, I can loose it all.

    PLEASE tell me I'm wrong!

    (side note: Love ya Bryan :thumbsup:no offence, don't hate me for my thoughts!) LOL
    [align=center]A wise and frugal government, which shall leave men free to regulate their own pursuits of industry and improvement, and shall not take from the mouth of labor the bread it has earned - this is the sum of good government.[/align]

    [align=center]I hope we shall crush in its birth the aristocracy of our monied corporations which dare already to challenge our government to a trial by strength, and bid defiance to the laws of our country.
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    #77
    Senior Member

    hb10-1284 set to be voted on tomorrow

    if this shit is included in the final legislation, you just wait - their will be commercial "center-weed" and there will be grey market "caregiver-dank" because the dispensaries are going to have to be efficient in producing quantity if they want to pay the bills.

    I want the full list of dispensaries that are behind these lobbying efforts - and YOU BET that info will come out. I want to know who the fat cats are that would shut out every home grower in the state, and the rest of the state should know as well.

    Is Peace In Medicine the first on the list?

    Who else?
    Colorado patient grower. :rambohead:

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    #78
    Senior Member

    hb10-1284 set to be voted on tomorrow

    I still don't think the state should tell YOU where to get the meds. By being allowed to buy from ANYONE, as you can in most other businesses. YOU would have greater variety.
    Just as an FYI, most consumable products (alcohol, medicine, food, for example) actually travel through very strictly-regulated supply chains. It's true that most other businesses can purchase stock from anywhere, but most other businesses similar to dispensaries can only purchase from a small group of licensed vendors. In the case of beer and alcohol, only from a distributor, which number about two dozen in this state. If I was making beer in my basement, I couldn't put it in a backpack and sell it to the local liquor store; those days are long gone.... and that option is about to be closed to commercial growers as well.

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    #79
    Senior Member

    hb10-1284 set to be voted on tomorrow

    there is no need to lock in certain entities as the only legal suppliers. It's anti-competitive, keeps prices high, and supply limited. This serves no purpose other than to protect select dispensaries, and it has no business being in this bill.

    the best thing our legislators could do, for the sake of their careers, is to just let the bill die.

    If supply is further limited, there will be a crisis in a year if not sooner. With the resources we have now, all put together, without regulation, we are still in a shortage and the cost is prohibitive for patients that need larger quantities for extreme conditions.
    Colorado patient grower. :rambohead:

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    #80
    Senior Member

    hb10-1284 set to be voted on tomorrow

    Well as a dispensary owner I can tell you all I am not associated with any "lobbying" that may be happening. I haven't been contacted by anyone with those intentions and I support small growers. When most growers produce cannabis commercially they usually tend to put quantity over quality. I hope the laws change for the better, but it looks like more regulation is ahead...

    -B

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