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    hb10-1284 set to be voted on tomorrow

    Quote Originally Posted by ColoradoCareMMJ
    If this passes it will only prove that our ELECTED representatives don't give a shit about the patients of Colorado. This bill is bad for patients, caregivers and dispensaries. The only people it will benefit is the conservative assholes who are trying to shut this whole industry down....
    i did'nt know romer was a conservative?
    palerider7777 Reviewed by palerider7777 on . hb10-1284 set to be voted on tomorrow Tomorrow from 1:30 to 7pm the Colorado House will come together at the state capitol building in Denver to vote on HB10-1284. The bill creates the medical marijuana licensing authority in the department of revenue. Much of the language of the bill treats dispensaries as liquor stores or cabarets, a stance that patients and caregivers donā??t relish. The bill is forty-five pages long. Here are some of the highlights or lowlights depending on where you stand: ā?¢ A primary caregiver may Rating: 5

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    hb10-1284 set to be voted on tomorrow

    Quote Originally Posted by HighPopalorum
    We do that already, and I'm glad we do. Zoning laws are left to the city and/or county, which is as it should be. While I probably wouldn't be bothered by a dispensary in my neighborhood, I'd most definitely be pissed if someone built a min-storage center or a brake pad factory. Local control gives citizens influence over how their communities look, the direction in which they grow, and what sorts of businesses are permitted in different areas. We also have a design and review board which must approve every commercial structure and most residential buildings in the city, once they've been licensed. None of this local control has prevented dispensaries (or other businesses) from thriving, but it has preserved a great deal of the town's character and charm.
    yea i've seen that first hand when i moved to a small town in the mountains.it gave off that good ole boy feel to it.you know the one where they do everything they can to only allow who they want to live there.then anyone else that moves in that was'nt born there is fucked with until they leave.these same towns bitch about how poor they are and why they can't be big like breck or vail.maybe it's because of all the speed traps and all the other bs they do to prey off the people riding through?

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    hb10-1284 set to be voted on tomorrow

    Quote Originally Posted by HighPopalorum
    We do that already, and I'm glad we do. Zoning laws are left to the city and/or county, which is as it should be. While I probably wouldn't be bothered by a dispensary in my neighborhood, I'd most definitely be pissed if someone built a min-storage center or a brake pad factory. Local control gives citizens influence over how their communities look, the direction in which they grow, and what sorts of businesses are permitted in different areas. We also have a design and review board which must approve every commercial structure and most residential buildings in the city, once they've been licensed. None of this local control has prevented dispensaries (or other businesses) from thriving, but it has preserved a great deal of the town's character and charm.
    Personally I think the invisible hand should choose. If the market can support 100,000 dispensaries then so be it. In fact id love to see every empty building become a dispensary or a grow.

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    hb10-1284 set to be voted on tomorrow

    Quote Originally Posted by HighPopalorum
    We do that already, and I'm glad we do. Zoning laws are left to the city and/or county, which is as it should be. While I probably wouldn't be bothered by a dispensary in my neighborhood, I'd most definitely be pissed if someone built a min-storage center or a brake pad factory. Local control gives citizens influence over how their communities look, the direction in which they grow, and what sorts of businesses are permitted in different areas. We also have a design and review board which must approve every commercial structure and most residential buildings in the city, once they've been licensed. None of this local control has prevented dispensaries (or other businesses) from thriving, but it has preserved a great deal of the town's character and charm.
    I think you have been drinking to much cool aid just like Obama. You have been brainwashed by the liberal media and you need to think for you're self. What ever happened to America, the constitution , and the basic freedoms that this document gives us. Our founding fathers never intended for the government to control every aspect of life. People in America have forgotten that there is a price to freedom and that means that people must be willing to let the individual make his or her own choice as to what color you're house is our that they want to take there own land and build a MMJ disp. on it heaven forbid. So I guess if you like big brother so much you should move to europe and then maybe you would stop writing all of this bull shit. You little liberal pussies think you no what's best for a community or country and you are willing to force you're own anti american views on people that do not want it. After what happened in washington last night[ socialist healthcare for all] the left's days are numbered, so watch what happens in november. On that great day we have the chance to throw out all of the assholes in washington that have similar views as you. So I hope to GOD that this bill does not pass because the MMJ patients in colorado demand to be treated with respect. Remember we voted for MMJ and it is the states duty to up hold the law no matter what they think. If this passes tommorow we must vote them out in november even if you do not usually vote. If all card holders voted we could change things, do not give up because that is what they want you to do.

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    hb10-1284 set to be voted on tomorrow

    Big brother? Please. I'm the one arguing for local control. You're arguing for the status quo. No regulation means the DEA riding around the state like cowboys, while the staties twist in the political winds every four years. A certain level of regulation is unavoidable. Dispensaries are going to be like any other businesses in our state, and that means codes, taxes and yes, regulation. It is not realistic to expect to operate a retail business without having to comply with laws facing other businesses. The best thing that can be done to this bill is to amend it to ameliorate the intolerable, while introducing new language to provide additional protections for patients. Delay and improve, but killing it is risky: the next time a bill comes up, there's no guarantee the sponsors will be willing to make the same concessions.

    In November, the State House is going to switch over to Republican control, meaning they will set the legislative agenda and Republican lawmakers will write the next medical marijuana bill. We've got seven months to get dispensaries written into law if we want to be sure of keeping them. All bets are off after that. I can't underscore this last bit enough: in seven months, the window for ANY positive legislation, ANY chance to legitimize dispensaries in the state will close. We have time, but not to waste.

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    hb10-1284 set to be voted on tomorrow

    Romer is not an actual conservative. He is a NEO-conservative.

    A neoconservative is essentially a very PRO world government democrat. Because they believe in large government, spending themselves into control, and a ONE world government who controls everything.

    Essentially the same thing as 98% of what we call an actual democrat!

    The republican party was taken over by neoconservatives around 50-60 years ago. Since then, we have essentially been two parties arguing over the exact same stance and opinions.

    It's called the false, left/right paradigm!

    As for you highpopalorum,

    You absolutely MUST be a leo troll. Either that or your highly under educated in history. You know the old saying "power corrupts"? Well in todays USA, it's currently corrupted absolutely!

    We the "free-st" country in the world, imprison more of our population then ANY other country. OUR law says quite clearly that unless you hurt someone(fiscally, physically, or their property) there is NO CASE! If there is no proof, There is NO CASE! If a law contradicts this "ultimate" law. Then it is VOID!

    We are supposed to have free and open business! For generations people swarmed to the US. Mostly because, for the first time in recorded,world and family history,.. THEY TOO could have a business. Thus not be enslaved by the government, and the few rich families!

    Today, people blame the industries for leaving the country and moving to China. Yet the only reason these companies did this is???

    Over regulation of business, over taxation of business, and all the fees involved and forced on a US business. By who??

    Our government??

    Not exactly. Our government is controlled by the big banks these days. Pretty much since 1913!! That is when our government handed over control (read the book: The Creature from Jekyll Island by G. Edward Griffin)!

    Now they are nothing more then VERY well payed puppets. Almost ALL of which would sell their mother for a bigger piece of YOUR paycheck.

    Every law today, that puts a person in jail, who hurt NO BODY! Is a travesty against our GOD GIVEN rights.

    If GOD didn't give me my rights. Then a man did!(BTW).

    If a man gave me my rights. Then another man, can take them away!

    If GOD gave me my rights. Then NO man can take them away!

    If ANY of this got through??,... Start reading before you live in a government issued, cardboard box!

    Chip scan please!
    [align=center]A wise and frugal government, which shall leave men free to regulate their own pursuits of industry and improvement, and shall not take from the mouth of labor the bread it has earned - this is the sum of good government.[/align]

    [align=center]I hope we shall crush in its birth the aristocracy of our monied corporations which dare already to challenge our government to a trial by strength, and bid defiance to the laws of our country.
    Thomas Jefferson[/align]

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    hb10-1284 set to be voted on tomorrow

    Quote Originally Posted by wb1996
    I think you have been drinking to much cool aid just like Obama. You have been brainwashed by the liberal media and you need to think for you're self. What ever happened to America, the constitution , and the basic freedoms that this document gives us. Our founding fathers never intended for the government to control every aspect of life. People in America have forgotten that there is a price to freedom and that means that people must be willing to let the individual make his or her own choice as to what color you're house is our that they want to take there own land and build a MMJ disp. on it heaven forbid. So I guess if you like big brother so much you should move to europe and then maybe you would stop writing all of this bull shit. You little liberal pussies think you no what's best for a community or country and you are willing to force you're own anti american views on people that do not want it. After what happened in washington last night[ socialist healthcare for all] the left's days are numbered, so watch what happens in november. On that great day we have the chance to throw out all of the assholes in washington that have similar views as you. So I hope to GOD that this bill does not pass because the MMJ patients in colorado demand to be treated with respect. Remember we voted for MMJ and it is the states duty to up hold the law no matter what they think. If this passes tommorow we must vote them out in november even if you do not usually vote. If all card holders voted we could change things, do not give up because that is what they want you to do.
    Wow that sounds like it could've come directly from Glenn Beck's mouth!

    Healthcare is fucked in this country. If you think the left is wrong for trying to make healthcare about people's HEALTH rather than profit, then I truly feel sorry for you. Its scary how easy it is for the right to get people to vote against their own interests.

    And don't spew your liberal attacks at me as I'm an independent.
    Brown-eyed women and red grenadine...
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    hb10-1284 set to be voted on tomorrow

    Quote Originally Posted by lampost
    Wow that sounds like it could've come directly from Glenn Beck's mouth!

    Healthcare is fucked in this country. If you think the left is wrong for trying to make healthcare about people's HEALTH rather than profit, then I truly feel sorry for you. Its scary how easy it is for the right to get people to vote against their own interests.

    And don't spew your liberal attacks at me as I'm an independent.
    i was'nt gunna go into it but since you jumped on the im better than you and smarter band wagon not to long ago....

    no people don't think the left is wrong for trying to make healthcare about the peoples health.if that was the case im sure people would be all for it.

    in the bill where it says this plan would be competitive with the current market.couple that with the what it says about if you don't fall in line and buy the plan you will be fined.to me that shows me that this will be like any other ins plan you will have to buy it.so how is it any diffrent than what we have now?ofcorse they through in a few no brainers like childern can stay on the plan and so on.all of which by the way could have just been regulated without all the other bs in this bill.

    if this was going to be free like in the uk and other places why would'nt anyone sign up to it? why would they even have in the bill if you don't do as we say you will be fined? does that not express to you a fee based system? all of which btw they would not talk about at all and when asked polosi says pass the bill then you can see whats in it,really?


    sounds like the same system we have now but now the gov gets most of the pie.it's def not free like people think.how is this gunna help all the people that don't have ins now?"the reason the people that don't have ins now is because they have no money"which only makes this all but redundant in effect?

    plz explain to me how this bill is for the people and not for profit??:smokin:

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    hb10-1284 set to be voted on tomorrow

    How come we have no update on what happened today? Even google does not know....

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    hb10-1284 set to be voted on tomorrow

    It moves forward.

    Quote Originally Posted by GJ Sentinel
    The House Judiciary Committee approved a highly amended measure today that would lead to the creation of medical marijuana centers in the state.

    The new centers would operate much like the many dispensaries that have cropped up in the past year only with stricter regulations.

    House Bill 1284 would require the centers to obtain a license from the state and still abide by whatever zoning regulations are approved by local governments.

    Those new regulations include requiring each marijuana sale to be digitally recorded, sale areas to be limited to patients authorized to use the herb, and anyone convicted of a felony would be barred from opening a center for at least five years.

    Dispensaries and caregivers that opt not to get state licensing would be limited to serving no more than five patients, but those that operate in areas of the state that ban centers altogether would be allowed to serve up to 16 patients.

    The controversial measure heads to the House Appropriations Committee for more debate.

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