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[davo420]

It was basically your concoction. Like I said, we had questions about your rating system and then you go and create this competition where you stack the deck and pick strains that you know can hang with the Urkle OG!!

Isn't that the point of a legitimate competition..??

Stack the deck? You should want to beat the best of the best. Not a layup against a bunch of brick weed.

[lampost]

Isn't that the point of a legitimate competition..??

Stack the deck? You should want to beat the best of the best. Not a layup against a bunch of brick weed.

Yeah, that's not the point. Go back and read the other thread.

It was a question of the KR ratings system man. A few thought the Urkel received an unfair grade and suggested a test of the rating system, not a competition. A test of the rating system would've best been accomplished with a random A strain and a random A+ strain to compare to the Urkle OG which was an A-. When KR is defending their own rating system and picks two uncontested A+ strains (ones they got right) to go up against the Urkle OG... I don't feel that's an accurate test of their ratings system. Do you? It's a competition for sure, but that was never what this was about. No one ever said the Urkle OG was the best herb around, just thought it got a bum rating. FUCK, read the thread, I'm so sick of this...

[FarmerSteve]

I'm sorry Steve.

Thanks KR. I too want to apologize for the way that my passionate remarks could have affected you. I do NOT want to be the cause of anyone's stress or anger, at least if I can help it. I should have been more gentle. I stand by what I said, but I believe there was a better way to deliver the message. I will work to achieve these ends in the future.

At the end of the day, I think you may very well be serving a purpose in the community. You've now heard from 3 people who are insanely passionate about extremely high grade marijuana, and as you said, you've made changes. So you learned. Bryan learned to follow his gut more (not that you're crooks, but learning to listen to one's True Self all the more is a blessing to anyone) Lamp learned a few new angles on the whole game (as did I) and I learned that it's better to just keep my mouth shut sometimes. I come off sounding like a prick. But at the same time, it's cool when Bryan's mom tells me tonight that she now picks up a taste in a strain that I pointed out to her last time. That feels cool, to bring awareness where I can. Open life up. So we all learned, and if we learn a real lesson from ANYTHING, it's never time wasted.

I just want to help. As I think we all do. Let's not tear each other apart. Some of my redneck friends back home are ready to come down and shoot all of us "queer ni%%er loving (Obama) pot smoking hippies" (This is an actual quote from a real person. This health care crap set people off) So let's remember that we're on the same team, and that our situation is precarious at best right now. At least let us have the good sense to fight AFTER legalization has come true. THEN we can scrap it up if need be. :thumbsup:

BUT, let us also admit mistakes and expose flaws, and if we all can be humble enough and dedicate ourselves to the cause, then it will all work out. KR, why won't you speak to Bryan on here? I never attacked you. I just called the SYSTEM trash, which I stand behind vigorously. Maybe we can figure out a way, from our own unique point of views, an excepted "rubric" of scoring, if you will?

I speak only for myself, but why not? Are we all so thin that a little scrap amongst Free American men has us chucking the bit and going home?

[FarmerSteve]

Just let it rest and take comfort in the fact that no one else even cares about this thread or cannabis.com for that matter! I'm sorry I started this...

HA HA HA HA HA!!!!

There are quite a few people who read this, and I think if I had a business, I'd care about the reputation ANYWHERE. But yeah, this isn't "9NEWS" or The Post.

[FarmerSteve]

Yeah, that's not the point. Go back and read the other thread.

No one ever said the Urkle OG was the best herb around, just thought it got a bum rating. FUCK, read the thread, I'm so sick of this...

Holy shite you're killing me man.

[travisKR]

Steve, thanks man. I agree with you. AS an individual I have no issue talking, arguing, disagreeing and then agreeing to disagree. I think the main issue here was taht both myself (and brother) and Bryan have business we started and care about - believe in. Reputations get called into play and obviously things become defensive. I wish I would have listened to my own advice I give so many clients, avoid emails, avoid written items in confrontation, find a phone and touch base with the human. I should have just stopped into CCF last Friday, shook hands and apologized for anything negative.

Also, we are looking everyday for further objective items to add to our reviews and we've got a few pieces in the works. As those come out I'd like your opinion again, it's clear you'll give it honestly

I'm a lifetime student, if you have desire to teach scent or taste I'll have time to learn. My brother had been a chef for about 10 years and worked a lot on his and has taught me things, but everyone has different areas of knowledge and I'm curious to add yours to the mix (of what I can).

Lamp, I'm sorry that I instigated any furtherance of the topic. I also want you to know that I wasn't desiring to come at you when I said here is my info where are you. I guess that was a reaction to the feeling that I didn't know anyone who I was arguing with. Bryan had met my brother and another one on our team, but I couldn't get in touch with him and everyone else just felt like ghosts where as anyone reading this knows who I am, can look me up and will eventually see me if they own a dispensary. I apologize if that came off as aggressive. I'm glad I know how you feel, because now I have increased standards and our team will work very hard to elevate our value add to the community.

To all a happy Spring!

[ThaiBuddhaMan]

A, A-, A+ ???
Honestly it's one's personal preference!
I've tried some cannabis cup winners that I think are nasty tasting and can't stand their effects (white widow comes to mind). I've tried WW over & over again, from different growers, heck different countries even. I still have no idea how that (what I think is crap) has ever won anything except maybe the best material for compost! Hahaha!

I think it's hard to judge a particular strain from a particular place unless that place has multiple grows under belt, growing that particular strain the same way several times. It seems to me that most of these places are still in their infancy when it comes to growing. Sure maybe they have be growing for years for the black market but in the same way they are now, same strains, same grow areas? Probably not.

I would like to see dispensaries do something like wineries do - date their product. Maybe have the harvest date so if a patient likes that particular strain & harvest date - they can "stock up" on it. Or maybe give out the number of runs they are on for that strain (something like "StrainName" Run "#". Maybe the day will come when every strain harvest is uniform but I don't think we're quite there yet.

I'm just so tired of going into countless places and seeing product that is obviously harvested early and dried/cured too quickly.

Anyway, I do really appreciate KR's reviews as they at least perk my interest in checking out yet another place. I hope when he does his reviews, it's on strains that particular place is well stocked up on. Would suck not to get the same batch the review was based on. And I always love looking at nugget p0rn too! :thumbsup:

[Reenster]

I would like to see dispensaries do something like wineries do - date their product. Maybe have the harvest date so if a patient likes that particular strain & harvest date - they can "stock up" on it. Or maybe give out the number of runs they are on for that strain (something like "StrainName" Run "#". Maybe the day will come when every strain harvest is uniform but I don't think we're quite there yet.

Very interesting that you bring up wineries. I recently saw a news piece regarding the possible legalization of Cannabis in California, and the marketing companies are already considering how to package and market. Several people interviewed mention that they felt the best method would be to market it like wine. Taste, smell, effects, region and harvest date would all be a factor.

Guess great minds thing alike :thumbsup:

[Kartel]

Steve, thanks man. I agree with you. AS an individual I have no issue talking, arguing, disagreeing and then agreeing to disagree. I think the main issue here was taht both myself (and brother) and Bryan have business we started and care about - believe in. Reputations get called into play and obviously things become defensive. I wish I would have listened to my own advice I give so many clients, avoid emails, avoid written items in confrontation, find a phone and touch base with the human. I should have just stopped into CCF last Friday, shook hands and apologized for anything negative.

Also, we are looking everyday for further objective items to add to our reviews and we've got a few pieces in the works. As those come out I'd like your opinion again, it's clear you'll give it honestly

I'm a lifetime student, if you have desire to teach scent or taste I'll have time to learn. My brother had been a chef for about 10 years and worked a lot on his and has taught me things, but everyone has different areas of knowledge and I'm curious to add yours to the mix (of what I can).

Lamp, I'm sorry that I instigated any furtherance of the topic. I also want you to know that I wasn't desiring to come at you when I said here is my info where are you. I guess that was a reaction to the feeling that I didn't know anyone who I was arguing with. Bryan had met my brother and another one on our team, but I couldn't get in touch with him and everyone else just felt like ghosts where as anyone reading this knows who I am, can look me up and will eventually see me if they own a dispensary. I apologize if that came off as aggressive. I'm glad I know how you feel, because now I have increased standards and our team will work very hard to elevate our value add to the community.

To all a happy Spring!

Really, I'm interested in what you think about testing the strains anonymously... by asking for free weed when you walk in a shop you are basically requesting a bribe, even if you don't see it that way. Strainman does not reveal his identity until after all purchases are made... similar with other critics in other fields.

[ColoradoCareMMJ]

I've tried some cannabis cup winners that I think are nasty tasting and can't stand their effects (white widow comes to mind). I've tried WW over & over again, from different growers, heck different countries even. I still have no idea how that (what I think is crap) has ever won anything except maybe the best material for compost! Hahaha!

Its because the cannabis cup gets bought every year. Just like most any other event that is sponsored by its contestants.