Dems Want to Pass Obamacare Without a Vote

[Islandborn]

House may try to pass Senate health-care bill without voting on it

Talk about a disgrace.....these pieces of shit are so desperate its funny...and everyone including honest libs know it...took less than a year for this completely unprepared and inexpierienced Obama to loose all support except for his welfare baby base.

and here is a highlight of the BILLIONS of $$$$$$$$$$ the drug Industry is spending to pass Obamacare...hmmmmmmmmmmm.....that couldnt be because scripts are gonna skyrocket along with EVERYONES premiums right?

POLITICO Pulse - POLITICO.com

When and if welfare healthcare for all passes.....it's gonna be lodged into the court system for YEARS AND YEARS and eventually the Supreme Court.

Islandborn Reviewed by Islandborn on 03-16-2010. Dems Want to Pass Obamacare Without a Vote House may try to pass Senate health-care bill without voting on it Talk about a disgrace.....these pieces of shit are so desperate its funny...and everyone including honest libs know it...took less than a year for this completely unprepared and inexpierienced Obama to loose all support except for his welfare baby base. and here is a highlight of the BILLIONS of $$$$$$$$$$ the drug Industry is spending to pass Obamacare...hmmmmmmmmmmm.....that couldnt be because scripts are gonna Rating: 5

[jtsik330]

Good, I'm tired of having to pay 100 bucks just to for a doctor to say "everything looks good". Or feeling like I am gonna die in pain but I can't call the ambulance or even go to emergency room because it'll cost me 1000 bucks just to get through the door. The debt this country is building yes it is uncontrollable however I pay ALOT of all sorts of different taxes and with all the shit that is messed up in this country. The least the country could do for the people is make healthcare available. Hell isn't this website a result of healthcare needing to be reformed. People on here rely on marijuana just because of effects of there medications as well as the prices that they pay for those pills.

Everyones got there points in this argument I just fell like the US needs to really just start taking care of the people that make this country great. (and unfortunatly the people that don't make it great aswell):thumbsup:
Spread peace hope and love :hippy:

[Islandborn]

"the least this country could do is provide healthcare????????" Is that a joke? You dont like your personal DR......GET ANOTHER ONE LIKE EVERYONE ELSE....stop trying to fuck everyones shit up cause people are either to lazy to do shit for themselves or bums stuck on the Governments titty....like their kids are gonna be and their parents were. Its pathetic.

The least this country could do......good god. Perhaps you should culture yourselves and actually travel to these lands where the govt. does everything and see if you enjoy the standard of living there......cause its NOT as good as we got it here I promise ya that. A bunch of spoiled brats here in the states, could never make it in a tough country. Poor babies. I take care of my family....I cant afford something basic like fucking insurance guess what I do....I know its revolutionary.....I GET ANOTHER JOB or pick up more hours at my current one. Amazing huh??

[Islandborn]

Just crossing wires....Dem Whip (he or she that counts the votes) says vote could slip past Easter....shaky by GREAT news....they cant find the votes...time for more bribery.

Clyburn says health vote could push past Easter holiday - The Hill's Blog Briefing Room

and here is a white house official saying they expect the "jobless rate" to remain high for a long time. I'm sure that has nothing to do with his leftist domestic agenda though....nothing at all. America is not buying what Obama is selling anymore. Better change course real fast or Obama will be a lame duck president in 7 and a half months.

Obama Aides See Jobless Rate Elevated for ââ?¬Ë?Extended Periodââ?¬â?¢ - Bloomberg.com

[pepurr]

I don't like the possability of anything being passed without a vote. Just seems to go against everything our forefathers worked for.

@Islandborn;

Not only do I dislike passing bills without a vote, I also dislike lumping people into groups. One can not say all the people without health insurance don't have it because of some fault they have. It is not accurate to say everyone who gets public assistance is a leech.

Take myself for instance. I worked in the aircraft industry for 30 years. Then I became very unstable. The instability was in my mind and body. It affected my job in undiserable ways. After a while I became poor and hopeless. Why did this happen to me? Was it my fault? Maybe.

I was found to have hepatitis C. Hepatitis C not only affects the liver, but it also affects the brain too. Lucky for me I am a veteran. I can go the VA hosptile and get treated for this free.

Now there is nothing I want more than to get cured and back to work on aircraft. Here is the problem. The treatment for HCV will be 48 weeks. Few people who under go HCV treatment tolerate the side effects well enough to be a stable employee at any job. So what am I to do in the mean time?

This is what I do. I collect food stamps. I applied for SSD/SSI and state assastance. I do this with the goal of getting cured and back to work. Do I have shame about collecting help from the government? The answer to that is a great big no. I have paid taxes all my life. Those taxes have been used to help others and to do other things the government thinks needs done. Now That I need help, I pretty much believe I deserve it.

Sure there are people who use the system for less than honorable things. Things like getting out of working. There are also people who are genuine. I would wager most of them are the latter.

Shoud we cut it all out because of a few bad seeds? I think not. All the people of the United States, and the world for that matter, are our brothers and sisters. If any one of them need help, they should have it.

Islandborn, I am glad you have it going for you. I pray you never have to depend on others. Please don't paint yourself into a corner with speech. No one know what tomorrow brings. For you I hope your tomorrows are all good, but remember, nothing in life is a sure thing.

[RedLocks]

I don't like the possability of anything being passed without a vote. Just seems to go against everything our forefathers worked for.

@Islandborn;

Not only do I dislike passing bills without a vote, I also dislike lumping people into groups. One can not say all the people without health insurance don't have it because of some fault they have. It is not accurate to say everyone who gets public assistance is a leech.

Take myself for instance. I worked in the aircraft industry for 30 years. Then I became very unstable. The instability was in my mind and body. It affected my job in undiserable ways. After a while I became poor and hopeless. Why did this happen to me? Was it my fault? Maybe.

I was found to have hepatitis C. Hepatitis C not only affects the liver, but it also affects the brain too. Lucky for me I am a veteran. I can go the VA hosptile and get treated for this free.

Now there is nothing I want more than to get cured and back to work on aircraft. Here is the problem. The treatment for HCV will be 48 weeks. Few people who under go HCV treatment tolerate the side effects well enough to be a stable employee at any job. So what am I to do in the mean time?

This is what I do. I collect food stamps. I applied for SSD/SSI and state assastance. I do this with the goal of getting cured and back to work. Do I have shame about collecting help from the government? The answer to that is a great big no. I have paid taxes all my life. Those taxes have been used to help others and to do other things the government thinks needs done. Now That I need help, I pretty much believe I deserve it.

Sure there are people who use the system for less than honorable things. Things like getting out of working. There are also people who are genuine. I would wager most of them are the latter.

Shoud we cut it all out because of a few bad seeds? I think not. All the people of the United States, and the world for that matter, are our brothers and sisters. If any one of them need help, they should have it.

Islandborn, I am glad you have it going for you. I pray you never have to depend on others. Please don't paint yourself into a corner with speech. No one know what tomorrow brings. For you I hope your tomorrows are all good, but remember, nothing in life is a sure thing.

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[jtsik330]

So keep working then and get me insurance! Not to be an ass about it but yoooouurr views is the reason why everyones out for themselves. Not like I have to explain my self, but me and my. Family are from dominican republic so trust me I know what corrupt gov is as well as having to keep paid security on premises just for me and my fam to get a nights rest. This is the internet so I don't. Take things personal but I got a job, a good one, and this country is better then the one that I was in yes, but does that mean that nothing needs to be corrected? To each his own

[bigtopsfinn]

Perhaps you should culture yourselves and actually travel to these lands where the govt. does everything and see if you enjoy the standard of living there......cause its NOT as good as we got it here I promise ya that.

Strong words and big promises, which of these countries have you visited?

I live in Finland, been to Sweden many times, social healthcare here, and a much nicer place to live than in the states (where I have also lived a long time)... IMO.

[RedLocks]

Strong words and big promises, which of these countries have you visited?

I live in Finland, been to Sweden many times, social healthcare here, and a much nicer place to live than in the states (where I have also lived a long time)... IMO.

doesn't count, both countries have a higher standard of living than us.. ohh wait, hmmm..

[Islandborn]

How many people live in those powerhouse nations compared to the States? Maybe 5 % if that?

I lived in Holland with my dads family in 2000 for 2 years......traveled all over easter and western europe following parties...living outta hostels and with other party goers.... Saw Oakenfold in Oslo and chilled in Sweden getting shit cocked for like a week before catching a train home. Nothing special....great scenery but by size and population just as many bums and degenerates running around looking for scraps. And where will all these magical new doctors come from to cover an extra 30 million people without causeing waits and rationing as promised by Obama? It aint gonna happen.....Obama's in a corner now...and he has nobody to blame except his base of welfare babies and free loaders. Let em attempt to pass this hunk of crap without a vote.....and I garauntee Obama is finished.

Norway and Sweden? That was funny.