MMJ Patient Shoots Home Invasion

[jamessr]

It would seem that mike howards case and steve sarich case may be linked to the same group.

[boaz]

I have a 180 lb rottweiller he'd have to get pass first then my 80 lb coyote, who is very protective ...

you have a pet coyote? :smokin: here in Oklahoma they have a new special law just for would be home invaders, its called the "make my day" law. :jointsmile:

1,000 posts!! yeah, mon . . . :rasta:

[introvert]

Its funny,

You see these Documentaries and they talk about how Marijuana Growers carry weapons, and how dangerous it is and try to make it look like something from a mobster flix...

But this is a prime reason growers have weapons, not necessarily to shoot at the law enforcements. But because people try to come in and jack your stuff...

And look what happened..the suspects even had weapons... so of course it would be wise to pack heat too!

[killerweed420]

you have a pet coyote? :smokin: here in Oklahoma they have a new special law just for would be home invaders, its called the "make my day" law. :jointsmile:

1,000 posts!! yeah, mon . . . :rasta:

She's a good dog. The most protective dog I've ever had. But she does get pissy once in awhile.

One of my concerns on this issue is about federal laws with gun ownership and MJ. For the feds its an immediate felony. Which is exactly why we have the 10th Amendment. The feds have no jusrisdiction in these cases and every federal charge that was used that didn't involve crossing state lines is unconstitutional and all prisoners should be released.

[oldhaole]

The Feds are like your 180 lb rottweiller. They go where they want to, and pick and choose whom to eat. If the state penalties are not stiff enough, just call in the Feds. If the state loses a case at trial, the Feds are right there to re-try them again. And I share your concern about gun ownership and Federal law when it comes down to legal cannibis grows.

From what I have read Washington state is not inforcing existing law, if you happen to have a legal grow. Neat trick. You can be beaten to death, or get shot, and the Washington cops will be Johnny on the spot to rip you off and bust up your stuff after they haul your lifeless body away.

I get don't like when people call the cops pigs. But in this case, if the shoe fits....

[Graywolf]

Aloha,

It is an age old story. Rather than do the work, just steal it. Though I personally think it is not worth killing over, I am glad there is one less thief looking for something to steal tonight.

Hawaii has some of the toughest gun laws in the country. Here if you don't hit them in the chest,(as in you are in fear for your life) chances are it will be you going to jail. So I believe in dogs.

It, both sad and scary when it gets to the point where people with guns break into your house. The homeowner would probably be dead if he wasn't armed. Thank You Second Ammendment.

And though a handgun is effective a shotgun is better in close quarters. Plus if you have a shell reloader you can shoot all kinds of neat stuff (rock salt, dimes, marbles, etc.)

Good point! At close quarters, shotguns rule and are less likely to kill your family or neighbor from stray rounds.

I favor nine 00 split shots, crimped to a lengh of guitar string and stuffed into a 12 gauge shot cup. They don't spread much and take off everything hanging out in their path.

Ballistic vests are a joke against one as it collapses your chest from the inpact, so it gets everyones attention.

A head shot pretty much eliminates court witnesses falsely insisting that you didn't clearly annunciate, "HALT OR I WILL SHOOT!"

Taking life in defense of property is illegal, but if you are legitimately and serously concerned about the welfare of you and your family and the person invades your home, make that clear to the reporting officer and hire a good attorney to make your case.

I mention that because when loss of life is involved, expect the DA to flex his muscle and do his best to lock you up so as to impress upon you that LEO wants to shoot the miscreants themselves and at least locally seem to try their best to find a way to prosecute others that do it for them, regardless of the facts. At least our own local police have their own sick pathetic agenda and you won't like it once they control your life.

GW

[LOC NAR on probation]

The sad thing here is the criminal that broke in for who knows what. Stealing MMJ or murder is going to sue Steve.

When some one breaks in like that you can't leave anyone to tell a story dif from yours. It just complicates things. Finish the job.

I have guns and will use them if needed but My way is cold hard steel. A good handmade Katana and they never here it coming. Take em down and bleed em slow no noise. I don't want parterns to get away. OH, and I never sleep.

Hope Steve makes a full recovery and all the piss ass thieves know what's waiting at Steve's house for them.

[boaz]

...One of my concerns on this issue is about federal laws with gun ownership and MJ. For the feds its an immediate felony. Which is exactly why we have the 10th Amendment. The feds have no jusrisdiction in these cases and every federal charge that was used that didn't involve crossing state lines is unconstitutional and all prisoners should be released.

that is a real good point, if you get caught growing and you have weapons they willl definately tack on a few years or decades just for the weapons.

a bit off topic but this elderly lady up in Tulsa was one of the first to try out the new law when undercover cops broke into her back yard (they were at the wrong house). She shot 'em dead. Its kinda sad for the cop but she was never charged with any crime or anything. She was completely within her rights to defend herself and property. My advice if you are Oklahoma, don't even think about a home invasion around here.

[WashougalWonder]

Long time ago I had a concealed weapons class. One of the most important things I got from that was if indeed you needed to use the weapon to protect yourself, especially within your domain, completely empty the weapon into the perpetrator.

Leave no other story than the fact you were so scared you just kept pulling the trigger.

We are talking you are fearing for your life here, not someone breaking in to rip off your garden.

[moody420]

Its funny,

You see these Documentaries and they talk about how Marijuana Growers carry weapons, and how dangerous it is and try to make it look like something from a mobster flix...

But this is a prime reason growers have weapons, not necessarily to shoot at the law enforcements. But because people try to come in and jack your stuff...

And look what happened..the suspects even had weapons... so of course it would be wise to pack heat too!

It's so true! I just watched a marijuana documentary on National Geographic last week and they act like these growers are the most dangerous men in the world! These people are just protecting themselves and their property! Just like any other person would. In this day and age, everyone has guns....and if you want to protect yourself from some asshole theif, then you are going to need one as well.

It's scary out there....and it's sad that medical mj has such a high price behind it....but this is why laws have to change NOW! Legalize it! :jointsmile: