Quote Originally Posted by Burnt Toast
We are keeping it real here. As far as your "crunch time" excuse in an effort to justify the use of detox drinks, if you have the time to consume a magic potion, then you have time to consume vitamin B2 and water - which accomplishes the same thing (diluting) all while saving yourself the money and not feeding the scam artists whose only objective to take that money.

If everything in the world were to be based on personal experience, it would be a pretty sad existence. Youre merely assuming that niacin had caused your several friends to pass the U/A. Just because B happened doesnt mean A caused it. What if you took peanut oil before taking your test in which you passed, are you going to conclude that peanut oil was responsible for you passing and that everyone should start taking peanut oil?
Your illogical conclusion that niacin was the reason for passing is known as a fallacy of causation. Its flat out wrong. Period!

Yes we are keeping it real here. Drug testing is a serious issue because theres people with careers, families, and freedoms hinging on the outcome of a U/A, and factual info is vital here. Non-facts can quickly land an uninformed reader (that would assume what youre passing off as 'fact') in the unemployment line, or worse, jail. If you dont like the idea that we hold the poster to a high standard of fact, well thats too bad. Thats how it is here and shall remain. And if that idea is somehow not your cup of tea, then perhaps the drug testing forum is not for you. The drug testing forum is not a playground. If you want a playground, try some other site like myspace or yahoo.
Thanks BT for clearing this up, I became preoccupied and couldn't finish my argument.

Moody420, we have nothing personal against you. As Burnt Toast stated, we hold peoples livelihoods on a very high pedestal here and when we feel that someone is not educating people factually, we are willing to strike with an iron fist. We don't want to run anyone out of or away from the drug testing forum. We just want people to educate themselves on the facts of drug testing so that they can properly educate others.